Chasing_Tails 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 I use the dry dropper a lot in saltwater. Gurglers, poppers, divers, boobies, all work well so long as they have enough foam to float the rear fly. What I like best is that it allows me to work the suspending fly slowly, and at a constant depth, along cover without it sinking to the bottom. There is a downside though, double hook ups. Many times I have had a fish take one of the pair, then during the fight another fish trying to figure out what the first fish got into will target the second fly. If this is happening a lot, or I am targeting larger fish, I will typically change the floating fly over to a hookless attractor (popper usually to get some attention). Even if they come up and take a swing at the floating fly they will usually come back and eat the suspending fly afterwards so long as you don't pull it too far out of the area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOUG STOUT 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chasing_Tails said: I use the dry dropper a lot in saltwater. Gurglers, poppers, divers, boobies, all work well so long as they have enough foam to float the rear fly. What I like best is that it allows me to work the suspending fly slowly, and at a constant depth, along cover without it sinking to the bottom. There is a downside though, double hook ups. Many times I have had a fish take one of the pair, then during the fight another fish trying to figure out what the first fish got into will target the second fly. If this is happening a lot, or I am targeting larger fish, I will typically change the floating fly over to a hookless attractor (popper usually to get some attention). Even if they come up and take a swing at the floating fly they will usually come back and eat the suspending fly afterwards so long as you don't pull it too far out of the area. Where do you get the foam? Is it Chocklett's Loco Foam? I find no hits with "Wild Foam". I totally expect to get some double hook-ups of white bass durring a feeding frenzy when the shad are small. SUPER FUN ON A FLY ROD!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasing_Tails 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, DOUG STOUT said: Where do you get the foam? Is it Chocklett's Loco Foam? I find no hits with "Wild Foam". Pretty much safe stuff. I have had it for a while so it may have been a previous product name. The use of the prismatic foam isn't really critical though as it is only on the back of the fly and not visible to the fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOUG STOUT 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Chasing_Tails said: Pretty much safe stuff. I have had it for a while so it may have been a previous product name. The use of the prismatic foam isn't really critical though as it is only on the back of the fly and not visible to the fish. Yea, but it looks WAY cooler in the flybox. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philly 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 The fly this week for SW club's Zoom tying session was the gurgler. I kept mine simple. Hook: Daiiichi 2461 Size 1/0 Thread: Ultra Thread 280 Top fly-white, bottom fly-yellow Tail: Top fly- Chartreuse Blended Ultra Hair, Bottom fly- yellow buck tail Under body: Top Fly-Clear body wrap, Bottom Fly-Holographic silver Estaz Grande Over body: 4 mm foam. 2 mm white sticky back foam, 2 mm yellow sticky back foam stuck together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philly 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, DOUG STOUT said: Where do you get the foam? Is it Chocklett's Loco Foam? I find no hits with "Wild Foam". You can make your own. What you need is a sheet of 2mm sticky back foam and Art Deco Transfer foil, that is applied to an adhesive surface, not one that is applied by heat. You can make a lot of flies from and 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of foam. I use it on a lot of my foam flies. You can make beetles. Dragonflies or poppers. These are made out of "treated" 2 mm foam sheets. In order of appearance, Mother of Pearl, Gold, and Silver art deco foil applied to a white sticky back foam sheet. I used permanent markers for the colors. They do look cool in the fly box, but they catch fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Knapp 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Philly said: You can make your own. What you need is a sheet of 2mm sticky back foam and Art Deco Transfer foil, that is applied to an adhesive surface, not one that is applied by heat. You can make a lot of flies from and 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of foam. I use it on a lot of my foam flies. You can make beetles. Dragonflies or poppers. These are made out of "treated" 2 mm foam sheets. In order of appearance, Mother of Pearl, Gold, and Silver art deco foil applied to a white sticky back foam sheet. I used permanent markers for the colors. They do look cool in the fly box, but they catch fish. Very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 Moy Green Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 A tie from a Macedonia tying couple - Nadia and Igor Stancev. Bullhead - This married couple have several shared loves including fly fishing, fly tying/design and macro photography. And they have won awards for both their photography and 43 national, European and international competition awards from 1997->2001. Hook - 4XL streamer, 2-1/0 Thread - Tan Tail - matched pair pheasant, quail or partridge feathers Body - any semi-stiff synthetic body material, trimmed - back half on a tapered round, front half as a tapered triangular wedge Pectoral Fins - 2 pheasant, quail or partridge feathers Eyes - 3D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, WWKimba said: Bullhead Looks great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBPatt 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2022 X-Spruce Moth Variation on the X-Caddis; don’t think moths have shucks but it adds a bit of sparkle to the fly. hook - WFC Model 3 #12 thread - Veevus 8/0 tan shuck/underwing - Congo Hair Shiner Tan body - Starburst dubbing tan legs - pheasant rump wing/head - pronghorn hair Regards, Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2022 Bo Diddley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBPatt 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2022 Bullethead Stone (variation) Found a video here. Not a huge fan of bulletheads any more because of their tendency to blossom after a fish or two but the segmented body makes for a nice effect. In these colors, this could pass as a golden or short-wing, nocturnal stonefly. Changed the tying sequence around, spinning the head first; I’ve done enough of these and found, for a neat, proportioned head, mine turn out better when I start with it. Also, if you have any dexterity in your fingers, don’t see a need for a bullethead tool (or having to cut/re-tie in thread - a lot of wasted wraps there). hook - WFC Model 6 #6 thread - Veevus 8/0 tan body - 2mm foam tan wing - Congo Hair Shiner Tan head/collar - deer hair bleached legs - medium rubber golden stonefly indicator - 1mm foam orange Regards, Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2022 One last tie from Ireland this month! AC Pearly Bug - Another simple and deadly design from Alice Conba's "Bug" collection. She also has tied similar patterns for a brown bug (two variations), golden bug, golden pheasant bug, pink bug and red spot bug patterns. Hook - Fulling Mill 31160, 10-14 Thread - black Underbody - pearl tinsel (opal used here) Overbody - - clear Crytalline plastic (clear 10-pound mono used here), tie in just behind the eye of the hook and wrap touching turns to rear of fly, reverse and go to just behind eye of hook trying to taper the overwrap towards the front of the fly Thorax - peacock glister (peacock ice dub used here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gillage 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, SBPatt said: Bullethead Stone (variation) Found a video here. Not a huge fan of bulletheads any more because of their tendency to blossom after a fish or two but the segmented body makes for a nice effect. In these Scott, Video link comes back to this page. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites