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What is a shooting line and what are its applications?


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#1 dafack01

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:32 PM

I know what floating, sink-tips, and sinking lines are for, but what exactly is a shooting line and what's it for?
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#2 Fishigan

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:12 PM

Well, I just recently started using a shooting line for something other than chuck and duck. I have been using a Cortland shooting line with a Cortland mini head kit for pike and bass fishing here in Michigan.
With a 4 foot section of a 9" per second sink rate mini head kit I can shoot a big pike fly a country mile even in wind.
I started out shooting the entire mini head, which is like 9 foot. But after talking with Ridderbos I cut that down to a 4 foot section, a 3 foot and a 2 foot section. I also have another kit I'm doing in two 3 foot and a 2 and a 1 foot section.
I like it. I use a 9' leader looped to the sink tip mini kit and a mason single strand leader.
I'm throwing some flies for pike and bass that are bait fish patterns in 3/0 - 4/0 sizes.
It takes a little practice to get real accurate but, I have noticed that I have had no trouble laying a fly out regardless of wind or calmness.
I hope this helps.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:12 AM

How much line do you carry in the air when you cast a shooting set up? Do you load it with 10' out of the tip and shoot?

#4 Fishigan

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:49 AM

Since I am pretty new to this technique and after reading this I went outside and did some lawn shooting. I have done as little as a foot of shooting line out to a full load on the back cast. It depends on how much room I have behind me.
I am still doing some experimenting and such but have found this a usefull tool when lake fishing for bass and pike with big flies.
The wind is really picking up outside. 15-20 mile an hour gusts with 5-10 sustained. I'll go out and give it a go and take some measurements.
I'll be out on the lake in a few hours so it will be nice to know too.
I'll compare the same head lengths too.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:28 PM

I went and tried some stuff. I was able to put the fly out 50' with a head wind and a full 9' head. With a 4 1/2' head I got 25'. With a 6 1/2' head I got 35'. That's with at least 6' of shooting line out on the back cast. When I loaded the rod up with I guess 12'+ of shooting line and a 9' head I put the fly out 70' into the wind but it wouldn't lay out. With a cross wind and a tail wind I was able to get 120'+ with a full load and the fly was able to lay out.
I am not the best caster either. I do like using the heads for the bait fish patterns I throw for pike and bass. It'll be nice next summer when they are hanging on the 8-15' drops.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:34 PM

I am sure there is someone here that knows way more about this than I do though. I just started working with the whole mess a month or two ago. Like everything, it has it's use. I'll do some searching because I'd like to learn more myself.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:58 PM

Sounds like this would be a good line for muskie fishing. A guide told me that the vast majority of the time, they hit either right after it passes 'em or right at the boat. Hardcore Muskie guys do the figure-8 right at the boat. It would be a royal pain in the arse to cast out all that line, bring it all in to the boat, and re-cast. That shooting line stuff sounds like it would make it a LOT less painful. Just do the figure-8 with about 8-10' of line out, pick it up, and chuck it back out.

If I get crazy enough, I might try this with my 8 weight for bass and Hybrids. Maybe tie up some thickly-tied clouser type thing with a rattle and try to catch some Musky this spring! I know Rattletraps are a VERY popular lure to use on Cave Run in the Spring. Gold Shiner and Firetiger.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 02:34 PM

I use Climax shooting line for steelhead and salmon fishing. It is a level line in which I attach a butt section of 15# maxima using an albright knot. The butt section will usually be roughly 9', attach a 3' section of 8# using a surgeons knot then my fly. I use this to swing nymphs, streamers and eggs through runs and holes. Very effective for me. my .02
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