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The South African Mud and Sand Prawn - HELP!


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#1 petercoetzee

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:33 AM

Hi guys,

For some time now I have been targeting a local specie called Pomadasys Commersonni (Spotted Grunter).

These guys make Bonefish look stupid and are extrememly fussy on what they take. Very few anglers locally have taken them on fly. My goal is to create a fishable fly that will look realistic when drifted static in the current.

They look pretty similar to crawfish... I see Fred and Terrome have done some INSANE craws.

Any help on techniques/materials for bodies will help me crack the code in catching these fish.

Ive tried everywhere and i think this is the only place where I'll get the answers im looking for.



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#2 petercoetzee

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:37 AM

the last three images are tied using silicon and polar fibre. They look pretty good but not when they're static..... Attached are pics of Terrome and Freds Craws as reference

I know its a serious challenge to create something this realistic and fishable....

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 03:03 AM

Mud Prawn - Upogebia africana
Sand Prawn - Callianassa kraussi
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:12 PM

Reading your story and checking the actual shrimps on google I would go for foam for the shell and biggest claw or maybe even both claws. Most of the legs would be rubberlegs in a tan color. Feelers can be made from mono, quills or a couple of strands of flash.
The foam can be colored to your liking and will balance out the sinkrate of the jhook and the rest of the materials. You can also try deer hair instead of foam. Deer hair will not float as much as foam so that way you can decide on how much you would like the fly to sink. Since you talk about "when drifted static in the current" I guess you don't want it to heavy.

Just my thoughts when I read your story wink.gif

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#5 petercoetzee

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:47 AM

Thanks paul,

So far Ive done exactly that (foam). legs can be bent and are thin wire inside. Will finish the body and legs tonight... progress so far:

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 07:39 AM

my solution

http://borntoflyfish...-7-spotted.html

let me know your guys thoughts
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 09:14 AM

So this is how they've evolved to date:

avalon version:




floating/intermediate version:




replicating:



and the result after 10 years of trying to crack the code!:

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#8 Paul vd Driesche

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 07:52 PM

Only one senseble comment possible......very well done wink.gif
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#9 briansflyfishing

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

Was that grunter caught on the JAM fly perhaps? Damn nice fish.
Not tonight baby, I gotta fly.

#10 Charl 1000

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:00 PM

Well done is there any information on how to tie the mud prawn fly