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50 pound Airline restriction
Posted 24 November 2004 - 07:48 AM
Do to the variance of climate between Phoenix and Page I'm forced to bring both warm and cold-weather gear.
I started loading the Double bottom duffle with waders, a couple of rods, vest, net, tippets and other replaceable items (in case they loose it ) and filled the top portion with clothes, including a fleece, rain jacket, thermals and even some shorts.
Off to the scale... 51.7 pounds OK, let's weed it out. I removed a pack rod and the camera and it's close and should fly..lol
When did they decrease the weight? On my trip to Anchorage I could swear it was 70. Even that was tight on the way home. We each had a box of fish.
Have any of you experienced problems with bringing 4pc rods on board? How about flies? (after all they are sharp objects )
Posted 24 November 2004 - 08:51 AM
|Have any of you experienced problems with bringing 4pc rods on board? How about flies? (after all they are sharp objects laugh.gif )|
They will take your nail clippers, you'll probably get arrested for trying to smuggle a deadly weapon onboard when they see your flies Shoe..
Your best bet, call ahead, hope you get someone who has a clue, and ask them. Would really suck to board and find out they won't let you on or make you leave your flies behind.
You could always send your clothes by fedex or something ...
Posted 24 November 2004 - 10:44 AM
As for the 50 lbs, it was like that in September of 02 when I flew to Mexico, so I'm not sure when if ever it was 70. I'm not an authority on that stuff though, only been on a plane twice in my life!
Posted 24 November 2004 - 11:10 AM
Like I'm gonna cast them or something... Now that's scary
This really burns my ass. If they loose my shit, I'm out of hundreds of hours on the vise.
Posted 24 November 2004 - 12:23 PM
Anyway, everytime I have flown into Anchorage for the past several years there has always been several people with rod tubes in their hands. However, I have read on other boards where folks were forced to check their tubes after getting to security.
From what I've seen, I'd say you have a really good chance of getting through with a tube, but there is always the possibility...
Posted 24 November 2004 - 12:34 PM
I have an Orvis bag that holds four 4-pc rods and several reels, never had a problem taking this on board a plane. Easilly fits in the overhead compartment. I pack my flies in a bag that is checked in. I took a trip to the Adirondacks last summer on American Airlines and they charged me $40 extra when I checked in for a case that was too heavy, 55 lbs. Apparently they recently changes the limit from 70 to 50. I had a bunch of tying stuff and a vise on a marble base, wont do that again.
I have found Southwest to be the least restrictive about weight issues, also the cheapest tickets. My annual LRB trip cost $99 each way from Burbank airport to Buffalo.
Posted 24 November 2004 - 01:02 PM
Flies are a definite no-no. You could put someone's eye out!
Rod tubes seem to be at the discretion of the security people. I've never had a problem but you don't have to look far to find those that have. I've also heard of people not being able to take their reels in carry on - you could choke someone with the line!
Last time I went out west, I shipped things ahead using UPS. I just arranged it with a local flyshop so they were expecting it and it was there waiting.
Posted 24 November 2004 - 07:08 PM
I shipped ahead too. This way I know at least some of the stuff I DIDN'T carry on made it through. If it didn't I bought extra insurance.
When we flew out west last August they allowed rod tubes as a carry-on as long as they were PVC. I took 4 rods in one of those Orvis square rod cases with no problem. My understanding is the rules change all the time to keep the bad guys off balance and prevent them from figuring out a sure-fire way to perform gutless acts.
Posted 24 November 2004 - 07:47 PM
Posted 25 November 2004 - 11:46 PM
when calculating the Maximum Gross Take Off Weight, MTOW, the airlines uses "average" weights, the problem is that many airlines use different weights as the average...you're lucky they let you take 50# of baggage...most use a number arround half that to calculate the weight
Here's an example, Mesaba's (Northwest Express) standard pax weight is 175 in the winter and 170 in the summer (may 1-oct 31)...and the standard checked bag was recently raised to 28 pounds, and most carry ons are estimaded to be 10-15lbs (not even close to the 50lbs mentioned before, but,honestly when was the last time you all had a 10lb. carry on?)...all of these weights vary depending on the airline...
A 1999 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association put the average weight of American men at 187.2 pounds, and women at 151.3 pounds...this would mean that most FAA standards are way off...
now i don't wanna scare anyone, but think about that next time you get told you can't have a bag over 50# i mean i bet they are already underestimating the MTOW by at least 800-900lbs...
with all the stuff that i fly i have to manually calculate the weight and ballance...so that make it more precise, but every airplane by regulation has to have a 20% allowance in MTOW (someone correct me if i'm wrong)...let's use the plane in my avatar for an example...MTOW is 1760, so the airplane must preform with a weight upto 2112lbs...but it is my job as the pilot in command of the flight to make sure that the plane is at 1760 upon take off...
that's the deal on bags and weights hope that clarified why you have a 50# restriction...
|(from graham)I have found Southwest to be the least restrictive about weight issues, also the cheapest tickets.|