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Look like midge larvae or pupae to me, especially if the big ones are size 18-20. Plus the guy mentioned tying zebras to imitate them.

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Usually I can look at a fly and guess pretty well what I'd need to dupe a reasonable facsimile. No idea on yours. What are the body segments and is it coated with UV or wrapped in scud back or something like that?

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Prolly shouda left the dubbed heads off cuz they aren't showing legs. So mine are more a caddis larva rather than a midge....the glass beads are too big to do 18-20s

My midges

Maybe do some with emerald bead head and the green d-rib on 18s....?

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Wish I had clear small d-rib.... here's with olive rib over olive thread; 2 with UV over the d rib. Looses it's translucent buggy look...too dark. ???? The 2 are 18

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The larvae in question are Black Flies, otherwise known as Simulids. They are part of the Diptera Family:

 

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I tie a number of different patterns to match their hatch progression:

 

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BROWN/OLIVE BLACK FLY LARVAE ( Simulium vittatum ) – Parrott/Variant…

 

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Read about them here: http://www.west-fly-fishing.com/index.php/feature-articles/564-Feature_657

 

 

PT/TB

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Thanks for the info PT. All this entomology over my head but looks like a general midge pattern in the olive, brown will imitate a lot of different forms. Good enough for a low tech-er like me...the UV resin killed the look over the d rib so gotta do that different. I like the way it gives translucence to the bugs. The brite green translucent look is what I wanta get...

http://flyfishingarkansasandmissouri.yuku.com/what-are-these-t10202.html

 

A guy on the Arkie site showed this for a good way to get what I want.

 

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Thanks for the info PT. All this entomology over my head but looks like a general midge pattern in the olive, brown will imitate a lot of different forms. Good enough for a low tech-er like me...the UV resin killed the look over the d rib so gotta do that different. I like the way it gives translucence to the bugs. The brite green translucent look is what I wanta get...

http://flyfishingarkansasandmissouri.yuku.com/what-are-these-t10202.html

 

A guy on the Arkie site showed this for a good way to get what I want.

 

 

The difference with the UV resin is that you need a very very small amount. Use a fine needle tip to rub a small amount down the fly. I prefer thinned sally H for this type of fly as it is cheaper, easier and same result.

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