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#1 DarrellP

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 10:00 PM

I put mono weed guards on my bass poppers. I read that you can use a light mono weed guard on Bream bugs. Do any of y'all put weed guards on Bream bugs? If so, what type and what pound test?
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#2 mikechell

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 10:05 PM

I tie a LOT of bream sized flies.  Top water and subsurface.

I don't use weed guards on anything size 6 or smaller.


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#3 DarrellP

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:50 AM

Do you hang up much? There are some places I have trouble. I usually tie on a popper dropper set up and do well. I guess I would rather lose flies than fish...

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#4 mikechell

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:58 AM

I've never been a trout fisherman.  Mostly because I've never lived in trout country.  

 

Thus, my fishing has always revolved around Sunfish and Bass.  I've never used the hopper/dropper system.  Well, I can't say never ... since I tried it after reading about it here.  I don't like it and don't use it.

 

With a single fly, I can usually maneuver around surface obstructions.  I can usually hop a fly over or pull it through the cover I fish.  I developed my "Panfish Attractor" to come through subsurface weeds.  It uses Raccoon tail as a weed guard.

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#5 Mike West

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 09:41 PM

Yes I do....I fish in heavy salad and timber and if you aint casting into that stuff you aint catching fish.
I really dont do it on a size 12 or under but on size 10-8 I use 10-12lb Mason hard mono..
And on my bigger bass bugs I prefer to use double 16# Mason more than 1 20#-25# test guard.

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 11:08 AM

Most of my bream bugs range from size 6 to 10 and most of the lakes I fish aren't that weedy.   I cheat with my weed guards when I do tie weedless flies and use the Gamakatsu Weedless bass hooks.  The smallest I have are  either size 6 or 8 and  I don't think I've tied a fly on them.  Looks like I'll have to tie some on them to use them up.  Here's  what a larger one looks like.

 

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 08:33 PM

For strictly targeting panfish, I'm with mikechell, in that I've used flies that invert the hook point and uses some of the wing material as the snag guard. This would be flies similar to Mike's, patterns like the Crazy Charlies or Gotchas and they've worked well. 

 

Otherwise, for panfish, I don't put weed guards on flies.

 

I do use weed guards on bass flies and some saltwater patterns. That's necessary like Mike West said, because of where the fish are found. I use 25 to 50lb Mason Hard Nylon, .015 stainless wire, and 80 or 90 lb nylon coated stranded wire for making guards. 



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:14 AM

I don't always want to use weed guards so I prefer a temporary method. I have used orthodontic rubber bands. Pull the band through the eye then hook the other end under the barb. Obvious limitations are barbless hooks and eyes that are too small.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:50 AM

I don't always want to use weed guards so I prefer a temporary method. I have used orthodontic rubber bands. Pull the band through the eye then hook the other end under the barb. Obvious limitations are barbless hooks and eyes that are too small.

That's a great idea. I just ordered some of those bands for indicator/bobber rigging but wasn't sure what I was going to do with the rest of the bag.

 

Thanks!


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Posted 04 December 2018 - 03:56 PM

i dont bother with weed guards on panfish flies


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#11 Flicted

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:29 AM

I prefer not to. But I fish some waters that have huge crappie and bluegill but are so shallow that they have weeds to the surface over most of the surface area. If I'm in more open water, I never use a guard.