SpokaneDude 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 Started with a #10 jig hook, added pin w/ tungsten bead, and it's balanced. So I added body (mohair) and tail (marabou) and now it's not balanced anymore! Does it make a difference? or should I add in the weight of the body and tail? SD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 When you say, "... not balanced ...", how bad is it? There will be some buoyancy to the material in the water. Will you be jigging this directly under a float or boat? On the other hand ... got a picture to make it easier for people to see a problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpokaneDude 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 Sorry, but I'm not very good adding attachments to my posts; this is a better image, although out of focus, but you can see the tilt... and yes, I'll be using it some distance from my 'toon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 dubbing looks uneven from bend to bead. add more dubbing up front tie another one that is slightly nose heavy. add a few wrap of lead wire behind the bead move weight more forward or fish it as it is is 3-5 degrees off really a problem? i looked on google images and not all of them look perfectly horizontal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 Looks like a large hook for the bead. Again, the weight of the natural materials should be neutral in the water, so I don't think it'll be much of an issue. For fishing, I also don't think the fish will turn it down because of a few degrees tilt to horizontal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chugbug27 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 I don't really fish lakes or tie this pattern, but I'm guessing you're trying to tie a balanced "balanced leech"? Assuming that's what you're looking for, here's a link for you from a great resource, with useful info and an SBS (click "tying instructions" under the main photo) http://www.flyfishingthesierra.com/balancedleech.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 wave motion and stripping in the line is going to affect the angle of the fly in the water. much ado about nothing watch phil rowley tie one and his explanation on the head down profile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_6sn7ooL80 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2019 Agree, a lot to do about nothing. first and foremost its going to follow the weight of the bead and the line and or current pulling/pushing on it. A little bit of off kilter dubbing is not going to change that. As I'm sitting hear I'm trying to wrap my head around what exactly "balanced" means for something that will be thrown in water where balance gets tossed right out the window and replaced with buoyancy and whatever aerodynamics is called underwater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpokaneDude 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2019 Thanks everybody for the input... I'll see how it goes next week, when I hope to give some of them a try... SD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie P. (NY) 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2019 If it is weighted at one end the material end will always follow the head because of drag in the water if there is any motion up or down going on. I don't think the fish will care of the leech isn't exactly parallel to the surface. Ever watch a leech swim? https://youtu.be/MY3E_Cnq-8s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryon Anderson 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2019 Hydrodynamics 🙂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chugbug27 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2019 watch phil rowley tie one and his explanation on the head down profile Norm "nailed" it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
