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Flies for spawning cutthroats
Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:54 PM
Any experienced advice on what fly patterns to use? Much appreciated!
Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:10 PM
I have no experience about trout fishing. But from all the conversations and articles ... I was under the belief that spawn run fish don't actually eat anything. If that's the case, bright streamers would illicit reaction strikes ... yes?
Barbed hooks rule!
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Ex-Marine ... quondam fidelis
Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:53 PM
Again, if anyone's got experience to share, please do, thanks in advance!
Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:21 AM
I caught cuts in Idaho on worms and single eggs way back when, have never been back with flies. It must have post spawn, it was warm enough to camp at 8700'.
A half inch long piece of red worm threaded on a #16 hook looks very near a caddis larva, imo, and that would be my go to fly I think. The eggs that we used were bright red, fwtw. & ~3/16" diameter.
I'd likely trade the classic wets for some woolly-buggers, just because I use buggers everywhere and just a hunch I'd try a sparse MikeyFinn in the riffle, and never go out without some kind of midge, for me that's a Griffiths gnat, mosquito should always be in the box too.
Wish I could help with experience on that drainage but closest I ever got to there is probably Winnemucca.
Hit the web sites for some of those Pyramid outfitters and see what they are bragging up.
Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:14 AM
Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:28 AM
2 years ago it was Micro Mays, I think they liked the flash on the wing case. We fished a 100 yd stretch & caught fish all day long, most in the 20 in class. 1st fish the 2nd day I almost couldn't land it my arm was so sore.
Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:56 AM
Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:42 PM
So, I'm back from my first ever major spawning experience. Fish wise it was spectacular. Fisherman wise it was, well, tawdry.
Tons of enormous lake trout trekking up a small creek in pairs and schools, a lot of spawning activity, which was as I said, spectacular to watch. I got the hang of things pretty quickly. Paired spawning trout, and a host of others vying for the redd with the male of the spawning pair fighting them off. Couldn't tell if the competitors were trying to add their genetics to the mix, or whether they were trying to eat the eggs, or maybe something else. Spectacular. Below the redds there were often pods of trout hanging out in the deeper water below.
Lots of traffic, no respect for the spawning trout. None whatsoever. I didn't get it until I saw it. Spin fishermen and fly fishermen, all targeting the spawning fish on and around the redds, basically either dangling flashy spoons in front of them or throwing assorted flies by them until they bit or got hooked on a fin or tail. To the point where the spawning fish could not be left alone. Saw lots of them wrestled to the ground and held for pictures for way, way too long after an exhausting fight. Lots of dead fish floating down the stream. A few fly fishermen were fishing the deeper pools downstream of the redds, but really only a small percentage.
I had some spectacular fish, but didn't take pictures. I didn't fish the redds, and didn't catch nearly as many fish as those that did fish the redds. What worked best for me was nymphs that imitated the nymphs that the spawning trout were kicking up to the pods of fish waiting in the pool below -- mostly green bodied and tan bodied cased caddis and golden and black stoneflies. Occasionally the trout would porpoise up to adult caddis flies which were hatching sporadically, but I found a big stonefly stimulator worked better on those trout than imitating the small hatching caddis. The best was vicente's peeking caddis from the 9th annual season opener swap, which caught me a big lake fed rainbow that had traveled up with the spawning cutthroats, hovering in the pool below the redd. Jumped a good two feet, length about 22-24 inches, maybe 5 lbs, got him to shoreline but he snapped off along with the fly before I could release him.