Jump to content

 Welcome to FlyTyingForum.com

FlyTyingForum.com is the largest fly tying community in the world and we hope you take a moment to register for a free account and join this amazingly friendly and helpful group of anglers. FTF has over 12,000 registered members that have made over 300,000 posts and have uploaded over 6,000 patterns to our exclusive fly pattern database!

If you are an experienced fly tier or just starting out FTF is the perfect place to call home. Click Here To Register for a Free Account

Fly Pattern Database / Browse by Topics / Browse by Material / Fly Tying Bench Database / Fly Fishing & Tying Videos / FTFCurrent(NEW!)
Featured Products: Fly Tying Hooks / Fly Tying Scissors / Waterproof Fly Boxes

Umpqua deer hair popper coating

  • Please log in to reply
7 replies to this topic

#1 804ScottC


    Bait Fisherman

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 6 posts

Posted 14 January 2019 - 11:12 PM

I was looking at their dhp today and first those things are packed tight. VERY TIGHT! Second they seem to be coated with something rubbery. My question is two fold. Are they packed really tight because of the coating and what is the coating????

#2 johnnyquahog


    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 321 posts

Posted 14 January 2019 - 11:36 PM

Many guys coat the face and belly with watered down Liquid Fusion.  I'm not sure what Umpqua is doing.  Liquid Fusion is good stuff in that the chemicals won't damage your brain cells.



Attached Thumbnails

  • YVGright.jpg

#3 tjm


    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 975 posts

Posted 14 January 2019 - 11:37 PM

Where did you see them?

Don't think I have seen a coated hair bug. Hair can be packed very tightly with the right tools and methods.


^^ed. > well, now I have

#4 Mark Knapp

Mark Knapp

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts

Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:50 AM

I was going to make a joke about a "pooper coating" but I couldn't think of anything classy to say. Go figure.smile.png

#5 mikechell


    Cold weather afficando- Give me Snow or give me death!

  • Super Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 13,470 posts

Posted 15 January 2019 - 07:40 AM

Sorry, Mark.  I edited the title to keep those remarks to a minimum.  This thread would quickly devolve into chaos, otherwise.


Well, since I'm leaving your comment there ... it still might !!

Barbed hooks rule!
My definition of work: Doing something in which effort exceeds gain.
Ex-Marine ... quondam fidelis

#6 Capt Bob LeMay

Capt Bob LeMay

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,406 posts

Posted 15 January 2019 - 07:57 AM

I occasionally use something called Flex Seal on my deerhair bugs - here's a picture of the bug - it's a Razor Cut Mullet...



Flex Seal is a clear, solvent based product that has the consistency of honey.  I dip a small dentist's spatula in it then carefully coat a finished bug (tied, spun and razored down , weedguard bent into position then deerhair colored with Prisma-color or Sharpie markers, then allowed to dry first...  Then after everything is done and dry - a last step is that coating of Flex Seal (I get it from Wapsi - unknown if it's available elsewhere...).


The finished deerhair head is waterproof, and much more durable than the normal deerhair bug.. The downside to me is that sometimes these types of bugs fish better as they get water-logged from use...


Yes, the Flex Seal does leave a rubbery coating on the bug head - but it's clear not colored....   Bugs where I fish my anglers are in a salt or brackish environment - that, along with what fish do to bugs in the 'glades doesn't result in a long life so I can't tell you how that coating would last long term....

Tight lines Bob LeMay (954) 435-5666

#7 Bruce Derington

Bruce Derington

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,327 posts

Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:27 PM

We coat the face sometimes to help push water, and coat the botton to help keel the fly

Bruce Derington

#8 Bryon Anderson

Bryon Anderson

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,845 posts

Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:24 PM

When I first starting fly fishing for bass, I had the same experience -- the first hair bugs I ever fished were purchased from an Orvis store, and I was just amazed at how tight the bodies were packed. They felt more like cork or balsa than packed hair! Although I didn't realize it at the time, they felt that way partly because of the hair being packed very tightly, but also because they had been coated with something. (I don't know what -- maybe Flexament as that was a very popular product at that time.)


Since then, I've learned to pack nice tight deer hair bodies myself (the secret is threefold: GSP + Fugly Packer + using a LOT of hair smile.png ).  I began brushing CA glue (I like Titebond brush-on) onto the faces and bottoms for the reasons Bruce Derington mentioned above, but also to help slow the process of water soaking into the bug, and to help secure the hair to the hook shank so that the body has less of a tendency to spin around the shank, especially after it gets wet.


 I have since experimented with coating the entire body with both Liquid Fusion and Solarez Flexible UV-cure resin. Both worked okay, but most of my hair bugs today get the Titebond on the face and bottom, and I leave it at that.

"... trout do not lie or cheat and cannot be bought or bribed or impressed by power, but respond only to quietude and humility and endless patience." -- John Voelker (aka Robert Traver), Testament of a Fisherman