Bimini15 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 With all the talk about uv lights and resins I wonder if anyone has tried the uv gel nail polish for tying. I was thinking it may work well to coat add sparkle to foam flies like the crease fly, and there are lots of really cool colors, but I do not really know how involved it is or if it is worth the trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 my bottle of deer creek uv resin smells exactly like a nail place! wouldnt be surprised if its the same stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 deja vu again http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=81439&hl=%2Bnail+%2Bpolish&do=findComment&comment=630177 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodrash 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 My wife has a kit that I've used and haven't ever been displeased with it. I use it on heads of flies and have coated a few poppers with it. I must mention, I do not have a ton of experience with other UV tying stuff, but for what its worth the nail polish/oven get a thumbs up in my book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Is it apply and dry or do you have to apply base and top coats to your poppers? How about durability? I am lookin at he variety of colors and ... wow! Lots of lure making colors. Just a sampling here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodrash 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I have always just applied and dried never had any problems. I only did one coat on the popper though. It wasn't a very nice fly to begin with, just one of those catch fish git'r'done looking flies LOL . So I wasn't to worried about damaging it, but so far it has held up and I fish some pretty rocky banks. So I would say durability is decent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimo 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I have found that the Gelaze and Gelish brands both require a top coat which is suggested by the respective manufacturers (purchased from Sally's).Neither of them need a base coat, but is suggested.Both require a clean surface to apply to. They both left a tacky surface even after severalminutes in a nail oven.Of the two brands the Gelaze is more durable.I am using them for the fluorescent colors.Kimo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodrash 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 My wife (cosmetologist) says that most if not all brands leave a tacky surface no matter how long you bake them. This can be remedied with a quick wipe down with rubbing alcohol though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimo 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 My wife (cosmetologist) says that most if not all brands leave a tacky surface no matter how long you bake them. This can be remedied with a quick wipe down with rubbing alcohol though. My guess is that the residue is so the underlying nail does not crack. Kimo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodrash 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I would say that is a pretty good guess Kimo. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 I found they remain tacky but a top coat or alcho wipe solves that. Really comes down to the cost you can pick up nail stuff for and if the colours make the extra steps worth it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 My guess is that the residue is so the underlying nail does not crack. Kimo Nope. The residue is uncured polymer blocked by atmospheric oxygen. Oxygen occupies and blocks the linking site leaving a coating of uncured polymer exposed to oxygen. http://www.radtech-europe.com/knowledge-center/articles/other/effects-oxygen-inhibition-acrylic-and-non-acrylic-free-radical See the Wikipedia reference and read the section under "Termination" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_polymerization "Interaction with impurities or inhibitors. Oxygen is the common inhibitor. The growing chain will react with molecular oxygen, producing an oxygen radical, which is much less reactive. This significantly slows down the rate of propagation." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Since my marker coloring skills leave a lot to be desired, I think this glittery stuff can add a lot to foam flies. I used regular nail polish with glitter a long time ago, but THAT was not worth the trouble. It is the fast cure time that is appealing to me, to avoid the sagging I had before. An extra top coat does not seem like too much trouble. Goes on the list of things to try. Thanks for the replies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimo 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks SC.I asked the owner and he felt they added a bit of lotion to the nail polish so the nail won't crack.The requirements for human application are much more stringent.The Gelish stuff runs 12.99/.33oz.and 11.99/.33oz for the Gelaze. If you buy 2 you get 1 free off of the Sally's Beauty website.I much prefer adding color to Loon UV Knot Sense or Deer Creek and then applying.Haven't found a fluorescent paint yet that I can add to UVKS or DC that doesn't inhibit it from curing.Also, learned from a shop owner that the owner of CCG has pretty much gone AWOL.He got some kind of government contract that is worth much more than CCG and putting his efforts into that.Kimo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2017 Nope. The residue is uncured polymer blocked by atmospheric oxygen. Oxygen occupies and blocks the linking site leaving a coating of uncured polymer exposed to oxygen. So, for all you UV users, to get the best results, you need to buy a gloved vacuum chamber. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/381894373528?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true Then you won't have any tacky residue !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites