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What Vise do you use?
Posted 27 July 2004 - 03:23 PM
I would like to note the first thought in wanting to tie on a Nor Vise was to boost production on Bucktail Treble Hooks. Making of Spinners and such.
Finally, would like to add there is not much in Nor Vise Tying literature out there. Wish there was and would love to find more Nor Tyers out there to share there techinques and practices on using this system.
Posted 27 July 2004 - 03:51 PM
Posted 27 July 2004 - 05:52 PM
I remeber when mine broke a fly shop told me they could "order one" for me.. yeah right
Now back to your local program
Posted 27 July 2004 - 07:56 PM
Stevie, you can highjack my thread anytime you want.
Posted 27 July 2004 - 08:00 PM
|QUOTE (TroutBum @ Jul 27 2004, 08:56 PM)|
Stevie, you can highjack my thread anytime you want.
Awww TB i'm touched.............
Posted 27 July 2004 - 08:37 PM
I started with the low end (ballpark $100), a Dyna King but I don't recall what model. I found the jaws to be awkward and just felt that the vise was "in my way". I know that is totally objective and just one man's opinion.
Next I tried the Renzetti traveler which bumped me up to $150. This is the one with the two screws and the O-ring folks have mentioned. George was careful to show me how to properly mount a hook into this vise. I loved it and bought it before I left that day.
I've been using it for five months now. I've gotten plenty of use out of it. My instructor and several others who have taught me various patterns have all been fans of rotary vises and have showed me how to properly use this feature. I find it very helpful when putting dubbing and other materials on nymphs.
The one time I make a point of not using the rotary is when I tie clousers. After I tie on the first bundle of material, I dismount the hook and then mount it inverted. One just can't tie the second side of a clouser with the vise inverted and the jaws up in your way like that. They do make a clouser arm which is straight and works lets you tie the second side without remounting the hook. It works very nicely, but changing the vise between the clouser rotary arm and the "bent" rotary arm is a bunch of effort. If I am tying a couple dozen clousers and/or other streamers, it is worth the effort, but for just a couple, I will just remount the hook.
One of the main features that I like is the portability. I can tie in the dining room to be near the rest of the family (and plenty of sunlight). Or I can tie downstairs in the hamshack, to get away from others and the interuptions (and near my good quality desk lamp). I've taken it into work to trade demonstrations of other patterns with a co-worker. (We had quite an audience for that lunch hour). And I take it into the fly shop for working with other tiers. I also bought a very nice case for carrying the vise and a good assortment of tying materials and tools.
Lately I have been "hosting" a monthly tying session at the local shop for members of the Illinois Smallmouth Alliance. Last night we learned each others different techniques and tips for tying clousers. I demonstrated why I find it best to remove and re-mount the hook when tying clousers. I also learned how much of a difference it can make when you cut bucktail from different portions of the hide. And I now tie a much neater head on a clouser. The shop owner enjoyed telling us about the time Bob Clouser visited the store and tied with the customers.
At least one other club member has tried the Renzetti like I did and then bought it. The best advice I can give is to tie a couple flies with any vise you are thinking of buying. There is no subsitute for hands on testing when it comes to a primary tool, like the vise. "Try before you buy" can only help you make a better buying decision.
Member of the Illinois Smallmouth Alliance
Rivers: Fox, DuPage, Kishwaukee, Kankakee
Ponds: Fermilab Ponds, Blackwell Forest Preserve
Fishing primarily DuPage and Kane counties in NE Illinois
Posted 27 July 2004 - 10:04 PM
Posted 28 July 2004 - 10:57 AM
but i am really leaning towards the dynaking barracuda deluxe. i'll keep one of the regals for my portable kit.. ..
Posted 28 July 2004 - 11:50 AM
Posted 28 July 2004 - 12:09 PM
Posted 28 July 2004 - 12:38 PM
You know Jerry, somebody should sue Renzetti for putting cam lock jaws on their vise. I think it would have to be HMH, they used them first.
Posted 28 July 2004 - 12:49 PM
Posted 28 July 2004 - 03:25 PM
http://btsflyfishing.com/danvise.htm. To get the contact info, just lop off the the danvise.htm and that will get you to the main site page. So far, I've liked the vise with the extension, but after 20+ years of tying on non-rotary vises it is taking me a while to get used to the rotary vise.