notenuftoys 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 I bought some Polish quills recently and tonight started experimenting. I first added Loon flow, but it seemed to just soak in and didn't give the look I wanted. So I added Loon thin, but ended up with this: Not sure how noticeable it is, but I had a hard time getting the thin resin to smooth out. Is this normal? What's the recommended resin "density" for coating these quills? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chugbug27 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 I don't coat over the quills, I lay a thread base on the hook, light coat of krazy glue on the thread base, then wrap the quills. Just like for goose biot bodies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave G. 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 I soak the thread base with Sally Hansen Hard as Nails and wrap the quill while still wet. I want the natural look of the quill facing out. I tried over coating but don't care for that look generally, and if I do over coat it then again it's with Sally H. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flicted 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 I don't coat the quills normally but when I use resin, I put on a dab and work it smooth with a bodkin. Then add more as needed and be patient. It's easier to add more than to deal with excess resin. Then top coat the resin after it's set so it keeps its shine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 If you put on too thick a coat of UV resin ... it will flow away from the light as you set it. The resin itself prevents the UV light from passing through, so you're only curing the part facing the light. That drives the resin away and once you've completed the rotation, the last of the resin pools up and leaves a "lump." Thin coat and cure, thin coat and cure ... repeat until desired thickness and look is achieved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Rotate the vise head PRIOR to curing the resin to level it out. Then cure Apply a small drop of resin and spread it out with your bodkin. Then cure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notenuftoys 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 If you put on too thick a coat of UV resin ... it will flow away from the light as you set it. The resin itself prevents the UV light from passing through, so you're only curing the part facing the light. That drives the resin away and once you've completed the rotation, the last of the resin pools up and leaves a "lump." Thin coat and cure, thin coat and cure ... repeat until desired thickness and look is achieved. Thanks. I think using Loon thin is part of the problem. I'll try another one using Loon flow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flicted 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Whether you're using thin, thick, or flow, the important thing is what the other Mike said, "Thin coat and cure, thin coat and cure, repeat until desired thickness and look is achieved." "Slow down young fella. If you take your time, you'll get a more harmonious outcome." - Crossfire Trail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 watch how much uv resin is being used on this body (you dont have to use the micro brush thats used in the video. a bodkin is perfectly fine) viscosity is irrelevant unless a bulbus body is desired Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 I made these, partly for fun, partly to see if I could. Using large amounts of UV, I quickly found that the UV "rolled" as I was curing it with the light. Not a big problem, but it did leave that distinctive "hump" I wrote about earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 a little sag in the resin can be an advantage in creating minnow bodies along with layering Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 what's a Polish quill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Stripped peacock herl quill https://www.google.com/search?q=polish+quills&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiU5OyvvpbfAhXkY98KHUbsBtcQ_AUIDygC&biw=1600&bih=758 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notenuftoys 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Had some time to play around with these quills again. I tried both chugbug's method, laying down some glue then wrapping the quill, and using Loon flow resin. Which is which? Either way, I like how they turned out. I do believe viscosity matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Thanks flytire, I'm familiar with stripped peacock herl, but, can't make any mental connection with them and Poland, was thinking it might be a peculiar feather from a Polish chicken, a peculiar bird. I sometimes forget how easy internet search can be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites