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#1 Li'lDave

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 05:46 AM

Hey guys.

Deerhair... I guess I'm just getting beyond beginner level for this style of tie... just wondering if there are any tips out there.


I'm sure the question has been asked before so I apologise... i was experimenting tonight with some different techniques and honestly.... while I'm sure they will fish I am really not happy with the end product.

My biggest issue is in the finishing if there are particular hints for that aspect. Many thanks.

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#2 Li'lDave

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 05:48 AM

Oh. I know they aren't tight enough. But unfortunately that's a relict of the technique I tried tonight

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#3 josephcsylvia

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 07:58 AM

Those look good, id watch the hook gap with deer hair. You miss alot of fish if you dont leave room there. For a final trim I use a double sided razor blade and curve it in my fingers.

Depending on how tight you want the head I have found stacking hair gets alot more dense than spinning hair imo.

I also brush all the hair upright before triming

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 08:11 AM

Search for Chris Helms Deer Hair, look for his videos.  He was the master!



#5 Li'lDave

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 08:29 PM

Thanks both


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#6 vicente

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 10:33 PM

That loose pack almost looks better on that pattern that a tighter pack might. I have started flying between my packs, add a bunch or how ever many bunches I am before I flair it flair it pack it put some thin head cement on and repeat. It's been getting them to come out much tighter and easier to finish. I trim/ carve them with a double edged razor.

#7 Li'lDave

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 01:06 AM

Thanks mate,

 

Honestly, I do think they'll fish, and they're not as bad as I thought they might be.  But they definitely need to be tighter.  HOWEVER, my opinion may change when I see how it behaves in the water.


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 06:52 PM

Pack the deer hair as tight as you can. I use a double edge razor to trim, trick is to break it in half. Gives you more flexibility than the whole blade.
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#9 Li'lDave

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 11:16 PM

Thanks Philly,
 
I'm going to have another play tonight I think.

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#10 Li'lDave

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 05:17 PM

Last night's effort. Happy with the look i have achieved here for this particular tie. Now to go in tight.

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#11 Bimini15

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:58 PM

Missing pic?
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#12 Li'lDave

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 10:54 PM

Sorry mate. In the post above with tge red waist

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#13 Bruce Derington

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 11:24 AM

So, with floating bugs, it's important for proper packing/stacking , for any others, not so much

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#14 rstaight

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 12:22 PM

The second picture shows improvement. I don't tie that much with deer hair but when I do I go through what seems like a lot of hair. I am never satisfied with how tight it is. I pack as tight as I can then try 2 or 3 more times.

 

The other thing with deer hair is you will need a large area to catch the trimmings and waste and a good vacuum cleaner.


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#15 vicente

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Posted 08 October 2016 - 08:03 PM

Have you had the chance to fish these yet LD?