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#1 SpokaneDude

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:29 PM

I am using Veevus thread to tie my first soft hackle fly;  unfortunately, it is unwaxed, and as I start to tie on the hook, it keeps moving along away from the eye.

 

What does everyone else use to keep the thread from moving while starting to cover the hook?



#2 josephcsylvia

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:35 PM

The simplest solution to this would be to pick up a block of bees wax from hobby lobby or another source and run the thread over it as you go. I like to hit my thread with wax when im locking materials down.

#3 SpokaneDude

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:36 PM

What about dubbing wax on the hook?



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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:38 PM

That would work as well, im not sure how your tying but if you hold your tag end tight and wrap back over it that should be it, it shouldn't move.

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:40 PM

In other words I hold the tag end in my left hand in front of me. Make a couple wraps going to the right, then go back over those wraps and the tag end to bind it.

#6 SpokaneDude

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:40 PM

When holding it tight, it just unravels... I think I'll try the dubbing wax on the hook and see how that works; otherwise, I'll run the start of the thread through some dubbing was... that should do the trick!

 

Thanks for the reply... 

 

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#7 Bimini15

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:41 PM

Are you wrapping the thread on itself, tight enough?
The second and consecutive wraps anchor the thread by pinching the first wrap and the tag against the hook. Make sure to make these wraps tight.
After you have a few wraps down, the thread should be secured and not move at all for the rest of the tie.
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#8 josephcsylvia

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:42 PM

If your holding both the bobbin and tag end tight it shouldn't be able to unravel. Let me see if I can find a video.

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:44 PM

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=mmLlDwehPRg

#10 SpokaneDude

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:44 PM

I know how to do it... I try to go over the initial tag, but that's when it moves... I'll try it making the first few wraps tight and get back to you.



#11 SpokaneDude

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:47 PM

Yup... tight on the first few turns does it!  Thanks for the advice; I wasn't doing it tight enough...

 

Thanks again for your help... I appreciate it!

 

SD



#12 josephcsylvia

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 12:47 PM

Yep, got to be tight,

And If the tag is slipping you could try folding the tag back over and trapping it before trimming, like you would do tying an articulated fly.

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Posted 09 October 2016 - 01:22 PM

to me, waxed or unwaxed thread is irrelevant

 

wax on hook is not necessary

 


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:52 AM

Glad you figured it out.  Most of our problems we have, like this one, is not the materials, but poor technique.  There or Four warps forward and Three or Four wraps back over it with tension works for me.  


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