McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2019 So I recently went out and fished the surf for surf perch. I looked up what flies are best to use for them and it seemed like sand flea (commonly called sand crabs or mole crabs) are their favorite food, so I tied this fly up for them and really liked it! I looked up common flies, and took a few different styles and merged them together to make my own. It came out looking just like the little creatures, and its really not too difficult to tie either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie P. (NY) 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2019 I don't tie for salt water but everything you showed was well done and nicely presented in line with the barbell flies I tie for bass. Good job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2019 I don't tie for salt water but everything you showed was well done and nicely presented in line with the barbell flies I tie for bass. Good job! Thanks man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 23, 2019 The mallard flanks for the "shell back" is great idea. I had that problem with these with craftfur dubbing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Those are really nice! Good job man! So, I didnt even think about craft fur dubbing, that probably makes a super dense and nice body. I like it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiralspey 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2019 Looks simiar to mole crab flies I've tied for surf perch and corbina in the CA surf. I use regular mallard and mallard died wood duck gold to better match the sand and crabs on many of the beaches on the west coast. I don't know if it makes a lick of difference when you're stripping bugs through the wash, but it gives me confidence. Did you catch any perch? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2019 So far the only thing I've succeeded in catching surf perch with besides gulp sand worms is a basic white baitfish fly with pink around the belly/gill area and some flash, if they're rigged tandem the catch ratio is about 1:1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2019 Looks simiar to mole crab flies I've tied for surf perch and corbina in the CA surf. I use regular mallard and mallard died wood duck gold to better match the sand and crabs on many of the beaches on the west coast. I don't know if it makes a lick of difference when you're stripping bugs through the wash, but it gives me confidence. Did you catch any perch? Nope I didnt, but it wasnt because of the fly. I found out I didnt hit the tide right or get near the crashing waves (which were like 200 feet out) too far to cast or wade safely. I need to hit it on the right tide that I can reach the actual crash of the wave. And also find some troughs... which I didnt at all on this last trip. Im sure Ill get some of the perch on my next trip with this updated info Ill try a baitfish fly like Vicente suggest also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 You'll catch em right off the shore you don't have to get out to where the waves are crashing, I've literally caught them in places that were bare sand between waves before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 You'll catch em right off the shore you don't have to get out to where the waves are crashing, I've literally caught them in places that were bare sand between waves before. See thats what I thought! I tried this sand crab pattern, a red worm pattern (I posted here a while back) some assortments of small baitfish patterns also. Just nothing that day. It was high tide, but the low slack tide, not the high slack tide. Like there are 2 high tides, it was the smaller of the 2... Ill make sure and hit the highest one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 Yea today the tides were weird where I'm at also just terrible timing for me, the tides4fishing website is usually helpful for those of us who don't know how all the tides effect fishing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 Just hard to find the right day for me, thats all... I know when I need to hit it, but I get about one day every 2 weeks to go, and if it doesnt fall on a good tide, then Im screwed... lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 I haven't salt water fished for decades. But if I remember correctly, it's neither high nor low tide you should seek ... but everything else. Moving water of the outgoing or incoming tides are better than either high or low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McFlyLures 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 I haven't salt water fished for decades. But if I remember correctly, it's neither high nor low tide you should seek ... but everything else. Moving water of the outgoing or incoming tides are better than either high or low. Thanks for the info, now Im confused... haha! Ive been told 1 hour before and after high, same with low, and now anywhere in the middle... haha!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2019 The slack tides have less water movement so the fish aren't as active, right before low and high tide should be good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites