sherrib 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Hi, I am new and have been tying a few of my own flies for trout but I fish the Illinois river in Oklahoma and want to try and catch a carp. What flies do you recommend for carp that aren't too hard to tie. So far I can tie a wooly bugger, pheasant tail nymph, hares ear and san juan worm. Thanks, Sherri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Tie 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Can you spin (flare) deer hair? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockworm 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I have never used a fly for carp (just peanut butter and bread) but I have heard there is a fly called the Mulberry which carp love when mulberries are in season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Beatty 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Hi Sherri, One of the best carp flies I've ever used was developed by a friend and it so simple it doesn't have a name. It is kind of like a Wooly Bugger without the tail. Here's how it goes: Simple Carp Fly Hook: Sizes 4 to 12, 3XL streamer or hook of choice Thread: Black or color to match the body Weight: Dumbbell eyes Body: Black chenille or color of choice Body hackle: Grizzle or color of choice, palmered Head: Thread, coated with cement. Put the hook in the vise, attach the thread at the back and bind the dumbbell eyes to the back of the hook slightly down into the hook bend. A drop of crazy glue will futher anchor them in place. Attach a strip of chenille and a hackle feather. Wrap a chenille body, tie it off, and trim the waste. Palmer the hackle over the body (like a Wooly Bugger), tie it off, and trim the waste. Whip-finish, trim, and glue. Present this fly far enough in front of a feeding fish so the fly can reach AND sit on the bottom - BE prepared. The fly sits on the bottom tilted slightly up and looks like something to eat. When the fish is close to the fly, watch very carefully for movement in your leader. Set the hook. There is a great web site for you to see carp feeding via You Tube movies. It is www.carponthefly.blogspot.com/ Good luck and let us know how the carp fishing goes for you. Take care & ... Tight Lines - Al Beatty www.btsflyfishing.com Flyfisher magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherrib 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Can you spin (flare) deer hair? I haven't tried to do that yet. What fly are you thinking of, thanks a bunch, Sherri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherrib 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Hi Sherri, One of the best carp flies I've ever used was developed by a friend and it so simple it doesn't have a name. It is kind of like a Wooly Bugger without the tail. Here's how it goes: Simple Carp Fly Hook: Sizes 4 to 12, 3XL streamer or hook of choice Thread: Black or color to match the body Weight: Dumbbell eyes Body: Black chenille or color of choice Body hackle: Grizzle or color of choice, palmered Head: Thread, coated with cement. Put the hook in the vise, attach the thread at the back and bind the dumbbell eyes to the back of the hook slightly down into the hook bend. A drop of crazy glue will futher anchor them in place. Attach a strip of chenille and a hackle feather. Wrap a chenille body, tie it off, and trim the waste. Palmer the hackle over the body (like a Wooly Bugger), tie it off, and trim the waste. Whip-finish, trim, and glue. Present this fly far enough in front of a feeding fish so the fly can reach AND sit on the bottom - BE prepared. The fly sits on the bottom tilted slightly up and looks like something to eat. When the fish is close to the fly, watch very carefully for movement in your leader. Set the hook. There is a great web site for you to see carp feeding via You Tube movies. It is www.carponthefly.blogspot.com/ Good luck and let us know how the carp fishing goes for you. Take care & ... Tight Lines - Al Beatty www.btsflyfishing.com Flyfisher magazine Thanks a bunch for the help I will give it a try. I haven't tied on any eyes yet but will give it a shot. Thanks again, Sherri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancesWithHeadCement 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I've got a lot of carp on the Pheasant Tail nymph, start with that... and if the Carp you're fishing for are bigger than 10 lbs, use a hook size that has enough steel to hold them. A large fish can straighten a small hook very quickly, I would use #12 and larger for big carp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Tie 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 If you learn how to spin hair you can tie surface flies which are used in conjunction with dog biscuits, as in you throw out a few dog biscuits to get the carp looking up and ten use the fly. The fly is made from natural brown deer hair spun and clipped to the shape and size of a dog biscuit. You can tie a small part of the frount with white deer hair to add contrast so you can distinguish you fly from the dog biscuits. Happy tying, Jason. P.s. You can get away with heavy wire hooks when using deer hair in such quantities also look up the hedgehog carp fly on the internet to get tying instructions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Where do you live? If you go to my web site you can follow the tutorial link on how to tie a bugger. If you go to hatches TV you can find tutorials on lots of other carp flies. like PT's and craws etc.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherrib 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 I live near Ft. Gibson Oklahoma. I fish the Illinois River. Sherri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDG 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2008 I guess it depends on where you are fishing for them. Here in the northwest, crayfish and dragon fly nymphs seem to top the list of flies that people love to use. But it does depend on where you are fishing for them and what they are eating, they pretty much eat everything a trout will eat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites