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I have a jig hook ?


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#1 Mike West

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:29 PM

I've never tied on these before and I promised a buddy in CO. I'd tied him up some carp flies.
Can I put some chain bead eyes here and the hook point ride up still? I know if I put them under the hook shank everything will be fine but I want to put them here on top in this bend.
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#2 Poopdeck

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:06 PM

Me and my pea brain say no. Which ever side you put the weight on is the side it will roll over on. You also have the weight of the hook from the bend to the point that causes the hook to roll point down. Adding more weight to that side is just adding to the point down.

#3 flytire

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:34 PM

i dont know if bead chain eye are heavy enough to turn a fly over but lead eyes would

 

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put them in the area you show in your photo


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:34 PM

I agree with PD,but if you did it anyway you could wind up with a signature fly style with a cool action!
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#5 Philly

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:36 PM

Jig hooks are designed to ride hook point up.  You could add the bead chain eyes there depending on their weight they shouldn't impact how the hook rides.  Tying them on the bottom of the shank could increase the risk of the fly snagging on the bottom but the hook point would ride up at an angle.  I would use bead heads if you were just wanting to add weight to the fly to get it down.


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#6 Gene L

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 07:15 PM

A fishing buddy had some jig-heads, white, I believe, and tied some white marabou and caught several fish with that heavy fly.  I didn't see the thing, but am going from his description.



#7 JSzymczyk

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:04 PM

Jig hooks are designed to ride hook point up.  You could add the bead chain eyes there depending on their weight they shouldn't impact how the hook rides.


Jig hooks ride point up when jigs are molded onto them.... or enough weight is below the center of gravity to offset the mass of the bend and point.

You've got to add weight below the axis of the shank for them to ride point-up. ?

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#8 rich mc

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:44 PM

perhaps one of the newer slotted tungston beads may work .   they were made for small jig hooks    rich



#9 vicente

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:16 PM

Just regular bead will work, I just tied a bunch up for the carp swap.

#10 Mike West

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:43 AM

Thx don't want a bead I want the eye effect created by using chain

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:06 AM

Here's a pic or two of Whitewater clousers done up on jig hooks....

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Note that the pattern is being done here with two different types of eyes - and they'll behave a bit differently with beadchain than they will with lead eyes....

 

Here's the original pattern done up on a conventional Mustad 34007 2/0 hook for comparison purposes...

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Using jig hooks can be very useful for different fly patterns - I've always simply tied on the "straight" portion of the jig hook... hope this gives you some ideas...


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#12 mikechell

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:29 AM

I believe tying the eyes "inside" the bend where you want to will center the weight too much.  

It might sink point up, but it will spin when you pull it through the water.   I emphasize "might sink point up" because I am not sure it will even do that.

 

By design of the jig hook, keeping a tight line on a sinking jig hook will always help it to maintain a point up attitude.

But very often, when I am fishing a sinking fly, I want it to fall straight down on a completely slack line.  In that situation, I believe your design will tumble or completely invert and land point down.


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#13 ben bell

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 08:21 AM

that tumble action might be a trigger on some occasions when nothing else works.

#14 Mike West

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:46 AM

Thx guys
I'm going to play around with it a few ways
I'll report back with my results
Much appreciated

#15 mikechell

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 02:40 PM

that tumble action might be a trigger on some occasions when nothing else works.

True, but it can also twist your tippet/leader into a furled mess.


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