Since the OP never wrote that the rod was an Echo, how do you know?
You must know the OP? I'm just curious.
TIER has only been a member since May. We ran through a thread he started when he was looking to buy an 8 weight rod.
2 + 2 = This is probably the rod that ended that thread.
I had my 8wt BEFORE I joined. Heck, I bought it last summer!