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#1 flytire

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:20 AM

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which do you prefer - top, middle or bottom. i like all 3 for certain flies to give contrast or detail

i wish i knew how to do a black background. any tips are welcome

i prefer plain backgrounds versus cluttered desktops or palm of hand. sorry

however i do use other backgrounds but not that often


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#2 ihang10

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:33 AM

I think the blue provides the best contrast of those three colors.  Tan would be my second choice.



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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:43 AM

thanks

 

i'm leaning that way too


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#4 utyer

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:45 AM

A complementary color will provide a good contrast.  I find that my colors will be shifted some by using dark colors as a solid background.  The blue looks good, but the fly body is a different color than in the second picture, and even the gray background shifts the body color, but not as much..  Only you can know which is the most accurate.  Using a black background will require more lighting.  

 

With my point and shoot (Canon A620,) I get a much slower shutter speed if I use darker backgrounds.  Since I hand hold my camera, I need a fast shutter speed to get a good image.  The depth of field also changes with darker backgrounds.  

 

I personally like the orange background better than the others, with gray as a second choice.  


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#5 dadofmolly

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 11:30 AM

Of the three, I like the middle one better as I think it shows the body of the fly better.  However, I don't take pictures so my view may not be of any help.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:00 PM

For the large majority of flies the blue back ground is my choice, however for this particular fly the tan seems to show more detail. It is probably what utyer said "complimentary color"; I know zip about color or photography- just know what is easy to look at.



#7 flytire

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:01 PM

  Using a black background will require more lighting.  

 

 

but where do you place the light as to not reflect on a black background?


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:14 PM

My question is why do you need more light? Isn't the focus/exposure set for  the fly? I thought the background was meant to neutral or light absorbing?

Like I said, I don't know, so my questions are geared toward me learning to take even basic pictures of flies.



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Posted 03 August 2019 - 05:23 PM

I love the blue background ... it doesn't go with the fly, but it's BLUE.

 

The middle picture, with the tan background defines the fly better.  Nothing on the fly is "hidden" in the background like the blue and gray ... which blends with the tail material a bit.

 

If I remember correctly, black backgrounds need to be farther away from the fly, or be of a material like velvet.  Either option will prevent light reflections turning the black to gray.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:18 PM

For painting, I set my lamps above my desk so they are at about a 35 degree angle from the subject.  For flies, I move them to the sides at the same angle.  


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#11 The Mad Duck

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:19 PM

Pick the background that most closely captures the true colors of the fly


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#12 flytire

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 05:22 AM

i wasnt adding more lights but asking where they should be positioned

 

heres one attempt with a black background

 

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i use black scrapbooking paper buy it tends to be refective of light. i need to go to walmart so i'll look to find a sheet of black felt used for crafting

 

thanks for the responses so far and for any future ones


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 07:17 AM

I'm not seeing any reflection. Hate the blue, not crazy about the tan and the gray is okay. I like the black.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 07:46 AM

see it now?

 

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i repositioned the lighting in the photo above


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#15 JC Hoppaire

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:20 AM

Move your background back as far as you can. Black Duvetyne absorbs light. Available from theatrical supply companies and photo specialties shops. Black velour from a fabric store will also work. Black felt isn't as black as either of the above.

 

https://www.chicagoc.../duvetyn-12-oz/