Help with a couple recipe's

[tomcraw 0]

Based on this page:

https://stpetes.com/blog/the-heavy-weights/

 

Trying to decipher a couple of these as I'm heading up that way in a couple weeks. I'll probably stop and buy a few but I'd rather tie them and its a slow work day

 

 

 

Smethhurst Stone Bomb and Heater Bomb:

Another angle of stone bomb: http://www.montanafly.com/productDetail.php?p_id=4413

Slightly different body on the heater bomb: http://www.montanafly.com/productDetail.php?p_id=4414

 

Interested in this one with extra tungsten bead as I dislike using split shot and like that it rides hook up.

 

thin peacock herl body building to thicker thorax

• stone bomb: with a palmered feather overwrap that is then trimmed short? Very thick on the body.
• heater bomb: with a black biot with spacing to let some peacock poke out?

Thin-skin or pheasant for wing case with epoxy

Two different size beads

 

Any suggestion on the hook type? TMC 2312 or 200R maybe?

 

 

 

 

 

Two bit stone:

Another angle: https://umpqua.com/products/flies/tungsten-bead-head-flies/two-bit-stone

 

Maybe I'm being too simplistic, but basically a modified Copper John?

 

yellow-ish dubbing thorax

two beads

yellow goose or turkey biot body?

goose biot tail

mottled thin skin wing case with flash

[ev8d 0]

stone:

im certainly no expert but my first thought was ostrich herl for the stonebomb. also a rusty? orange tag at the butt it looks like. and possibly a copper colored wire rib i can faintly make out. would definitely strengthen the ostrich herl some. thorax is same as body, ostrich herl with one wrap of your hackle behind that second bead and pulled down or trimmed on top. and to me it looks like no wingcase other than epoxy/uv resin. u can certainly do whatever you think looks best.

 

heater:

found this which u can really zoom in on and looks a little different. or that pic u found is just dark? i dunno...

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/montana-fly-company-smethurst-heater-bomb-nymph-fly-dozen~p~8645g/

again, rusty orange or light brown maybe tag, yarn body with a peacock herl rib then pull over your pheasant tail case and rib it all with copper or copper brown ultra wire. peacock herl thorax and rib with your hackle of choice. i just thought too that maybe your pic has more of the herl on the ribs broken off and not spaced far enough apart is why it appears to be black. just another thought/guess

 

hook for both above is definitely mfc's 7073 i'd say. the tmc 200r u suggested should work fine. or get a 3xl straight shank streamer hook and throw a slight bend in it if you want it to mimic the 7073 more closely. just be careful

 

 

two bit:

if its somewhat like his two bit hooker other than the 2 beads (which doesn't make sense that the description in your link says it has three) then its a thread body and rib. and it looks like the body is epoxied/uv cured so i'd lean more towards a thread body cuz u wouldn't do that to a biot body. the umpqua pic looks more like mottled feather fibers than biots like the hooker has for the tail. heres the recipe for the hooker if u want to try tying it like that. this is obviously off his website for the brown two bit hooker, so change colors to suit

• Hook: TMC 921 #14-18
• Beads: 1.5mm Copper (Brass or Tungsten), two of them
• Thread: 14/0 or 10/0 Brown
• Tail: Mottled Brown India Hen Back fibers
• Abdomen: Brown tying Thread
• Rib: Black 14/0 Tying thread
• Wingcase: Medium Opal Mirage Tinsel
• Thorax: Rusty Brown Superfine Dubbing
• Legs: Mottled Brown India Hen Back fibers

Coating: 5 Minute Epoxy.

 

 

that was fun to play investigator for a little while. good luck

[tomcraw 0]

thanks for the reply, I'm going to give these a try this week

[Bruce Norikane 0]

Looks like a Dai Riki 700B. That's the hook I use for Pat's Rubber Legs, my go to heavy stonefly.

 

I use lead wraps around the lower shank, so it rides hook point up.