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Deployed soldier need sponsor for fly tying material

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#1 Dosix

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 05:57 PM

I know my request is probably out of the ordinary, but it would really mean the world to me to have more materials for fly tying.

My specialty is the Spanish wet fly or Mosca de ahogada, now that I'm deployed I start acquiring knowledge about flyting but sometimes is overwhelming because here I had a few materials, and so many patterns that I want to tie but logically it's limited for the materials that I have available.

Matter of fact today I Finnish the last piece of atron and and I improvise and pull the stuff from the old couch where we are doing guard and use the insides lol it works.

The paycheck of a soldier is not so great. Lol but I love my job, I'm the only CBRN in my Battery at the moment. Sometimes it can be a little stressful due to the demanding work, inspections, and drills
but having a fulfilling pastime really helps and in part is quite therapeutic as many of you probably know. Recently 4 start general Austin gift me a coin to show me his appreciation for a good job and hard work ethic.

Thank you for considering my request. We have a APO address so is like send something to any state of US even if we are in other countries. You are free to ask anything, please don't
hesitate and let me know.

I would love to send you a letter as well giving you the proper
appreciation for being such a great supporter with your donation.


Thank you in advance for your consideration.

PFC David Ortega
Air Defense Artillery

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#2 josephcsylvia

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 07:30 PM

David, first off thank you for your service. Now while I do completely respect anyone who fights for there country as I come from a military family. Your first post to the forum should not have been asking for a donation. An introduction, hang around for a while make some friends then youll find more welcoming response, fly tying materials can be very cheap and we all have way to much but we all worked for what we have, you can actually find material on the side of the road or go to taxidermy shops and ask for scrap!

Also if moneys tight how about opening up trading, being in the military im sure you get some cool things in different places!

#3 Dosix

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 02:07 AM

Fair enough, over here it's pretty desert, flies lol rocks and sand . I have the trimmer always with me because there are always foxes around us waiting for waste food and I keep it with me at all the time, hopping to find one day, one dead. being In The army is not like I thought were you can trade Or do some underground business, you barely can do anything because soldiers get offended so easily that file complains of all kind. To sad but true. We have a place kinda like goodwill 10ftx10ft where you donate whatever and it's my main source of materials. I really miss bass pro shop but I don't know why the shippings always get lost or in the wrong place and they send it back to Origen.

#4 mikechell

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 06:38 AM

I spent 12 years in the military, much of it on deployment.  You might not get paid a lot, but you get a decent wage.  

You don't have any family State-side, that can purchase material for you and send it to you?


Barbed hooks rule!

I am not lazy.  I just truly enjoy doing nothing.

My definition of work: Doing something in which effort exceeds gain.

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#5 Dosix

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 09:05 AM

I guess fly tying is not so comun as I thought it was but I agree it will be easier if I'm not the only weirdo who likes and ask skins of animals to tie little creatures. About decent wage that's relative, but I'm not single, if I will enlist I think I will do 40 years instead 12 but how the things run now is a little pointless, now they are more worried to get offended for something that what the army means. it's like go fishing in a bucket. Since November 2014 I only saw my wife 4 months, And it was because she did the move, yes we have TDY in theory in the practice it doesn exists because everycouple months we have to be in the field doing exercises, and mission came first, we fight for rights but it doesn't mean that we have them, my unit get deploy every other year. I'm not complaining at all but sometimes before judge we have to see the whole picture, you where in the army 12 years but I will never ask you why you left because I will understand the reason and respect it without critizacing it. I always asked myself why the people leave the army even I was watching videos in youtube that I never understood things that I get it now. Anyway if you get offended for my post, I'm pretty use to see this, I will apologize and remove it. The last thing that I want is this political - moral conflict, it's not my intention and I apologize too. Drama is not mY thing is the only think that I walk away quit.

#6 mikechell

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 10:42 AM

No, don't take my post the wrong way.  I said I was in the military ... but I was not Army.  After Desert Storm, they did a force reduction and I got caught in that.  I didn't leave the military, the military laid me off.   I agree with you, do 20 if you have the chance, take the pension and STILL get another job if you want one.

I understand the separation woes, and it is one of the hardest things on the spouse left at home.  We know why we're out there, we have our fellow soldiers around, it's easier on us.  I always felt that when I was deployed.  And I always let the Wife know that I appreciated HER sacrifice.

 

But my main issue is with the fact that you can get a huge amount of synthetic materials from FTD ... http://www.flytyersdungeon.com/ ... for a VERY small amount of money.  They will probably ship directly to your APO address, or to a family member who can then send it to you.  You'll have more material than you can use in a year, more than likely, for about $25.00.


Barbed hooks rule!

I am not lazy.  I just truly enjoy doing nothing.

My definition of work: Doing something in which effort exceeds gain.

quondam fidelis


#7 Dosix

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 03:04 PM

Mike thanks for the link I really appreciate it

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 04:15 PM

Pleasure is mine.  And thank you for your service.

But I am confused ... are you IN the Army, or just working with them.  You stated, "... if I will enlist I think I will do 40 years instead 12 but how the things run now is a little pointless ..."


Barbed hooks rule!

I am not lazy.  I just truly enjoy doing nothing.

My definition of work: Doing something in which effort exceeds gain.

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#9 Camocole

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 09:08 PM

I spent 12 years in the military, much of it on deployment.

  

PFC David Ortega
Air Defense Artillery


Thank you both for your service, and fighting for our country and freedom. So I can do the things I love like flytying. There not enough gratitude I can give to show my appreciation.

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 06:02 AM

I'm confused. 

 

you want to do 40 years "IF" you enlist... Last I knew in the US Armed Forces you can't stay 40 years on active duty. Did you mean RE-enlist? 

 

Very true, you absolutely forfeit some of your rights to protect the rights of others.   That's what service is. 

 

Agreed, CBRN is a pretty high-intensity high-stress area.  If you're thinking about walking away, go talk to one of your Senior NCOs and get some counseling.  

 

Have your family send you a care package with some synthetic materials.  

 

And, most importantly, don't ever lose sight of the fact that you VOLUNTEERED to do the mission.   Everyone who volunteers has my highest admiration.  Don't forget though, that nobody forced you to do it. 


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 06:23 PM

David, Please do not get mad if nobody sends you anything. It seems there are some people taking advantage of the kind hearts of others as of late. What makes it worse is they say they are or where Soldiers. So, when your first post on here is asking for handouts, people start to think. Then you confuse us with what you say(if I will enlist I think I will do 40 years instead 12). Being a veteran myself, thanks for your service. As others have said, your best bet would be to ask family to send you a care package of tying material. Thanks Again for your service.


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Posted 05 March 2016 - 07:39 AM

I'm not mad at all I just asked, in my defense I have to say that my English is now 4 years old and sometimes I still thinking in Spanish and of course lost in translation lol. I used 40 years instead 20 to emphasize my desire of serve in in the army. I born in Spain and I was there until 2012 my wife is American and we have a baby over there, so I took my family sell everything and move to us, until one year later when I catch up with my English I decide to leave my work as a manager from Kroger CO and enlist into the army, when I enlist I was 34 years old almost 1 month for 35. I passed basic and AIT without any problems and one of the top, my score at PT was 285 and most of the kids are always surprise for my age and my physical condition, "no pain no gain.". In my country I proved to everybody that knows me that I'm not a dreamer I always want to be an American soldier and I never gave up. I'm proud of this and what I do, everybody that knows me know that I live each and every single army value as a life style on and off, hard work is my signature, and is what I expect from my brothers.

Many people asked me why I join the US army and not the Spanish army and I always said we are allies, we have the same enemy, we have the same goals, and we will protect our nations in and out of the country. I have friends that die in the train bomb in Madrid, I cried when the twin towers and it wasn't my country back them, in Madrid more of the same, because I felt useless.

they took our freedom and I want it back, the best way that I can do it is making true my dream and serve the team that I believe fight for the rights that humanity deserve. Now I'm an American citizen since 2015 but nothing changed, it's like be married, it never has to change but grow the love that you feel for it.

In Abril I will have a daughter and she was diagnosed with PRS Syndromebut, I have hope that the doctors are wrong no because I have fear but because my wyfe has to do everything by herself due that we just move to Texas, until summer , I will not meet her in person because like the soldier creed say I will place the mission first.I'm the only CBRN in my battery and my team needs me. I miss my family in US and Spain but somebody has to sacrifice for the good of everybody. I never judge people because there is always something behind of each person that we don't know, just like me and just like everybody else.

Be mad will be a waste of time and being deployed is a no go, I smile everyday and everyday I wake up with so many reasons of why I have to smile, no matter what everyday is always a good day, there is no choice.

I apologize for my bad English, I promise it will be better

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#13 mikechell

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 09:50 AM

Now ... THAT'S an introduction, Dosix !!!  Welcome to the site and thank you for your service.  

As I said before, I didn't choose to leave the Corps ... I was "reduced" or laid off.  A force reduction casualty.

 

I hope you've looked up flytiersdungeon.com and ordered a package from him.  It's all synthetic stuff, but it's more than enough material to keep you busy all year. 


Barbed hooks rule!

I am not lazy.  I just truly enjoy doing nothing.

My definition of work: Doing something in which effort exceeds gain.

quondam fidelis


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Posted 05 March 2016 - 07:37 PM

Joel.. I tried to PM you but apparently your mailbox is full.


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Posted 05 March 2016 - 07:52 PM

Joel.. I tried to PM you but apparently your mailbox is full.

should be good now





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