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WHEN TYING WET FLIES ,DOES IT MATTER IF YOU USE A COLLAR HACKLE INSTEAD OF THE TRADITIONAL THROAT HACKLE..... I.E WHEN TYING (BUTCHER OR GREENWELL GLORY )........

 

 

JIM.....

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In my opinion if you are just fishing the fly it doesn't matter at all. But if you are tying a fly for display I would try to keep it true to the original pattern.

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My prefered method for making a "throat" is to first wrap a collar. Then to pull the fibers down and place a few turns of thread over the top to hold them down. The method depends on the availability of appropriately sized hackle (and is especially suitable for hen hackle.)

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MY USUAL METHOD OF CREATING A THROAT HACKLE IS STRIPPING A FEW FIBRES OFF THE HACKLE , BUNCH THEM TOGETHER AND TIE IN .......

 

I HAVE ON OCCASION TRIED THE ( DE FEO ) METHOD

THAT IS CUTTING OUT THE MIDDLE SECTION OUT OF THE HACKLE AND TYING IN THE WHOLE HACKLE AS A THROAT HACKLE WITH UNSATISFACTORY RESULTS MAY I ADD

 

 

I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS AND GALLS TIE IN THE THROAT HACKLE WITHOUT TURNING THE FLY UPSIDE DOWN......

 

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Not me. I like to see what I'm doing. When I do tye a throat I turn the hook upside down and (on salmon flies and large wets) usually tye in three clumps: one along the bottom and one on each side.

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A collar on a wet fly is the method used with English & Irish style wet flies. A bunch of hackle tied under the shank is the method used on the Bergman & DeFeo style of wets. I use both ways for fishing, but I haven't noticed if one is more effective than the other.

 

If you're tying display flies, tie them as they are traditionally tied.

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The way I have always understood is that, a collar goes all the way around the hook, and a throat is on the bottom. Making them are the same, but after you wrap the throat strip the hackle fibers off the top. Again this just is how I understand it.

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Is this the concensus? Wrapping a full collar and 'plucking' the tops leaving just the throat?

I'm struggling to get a nice looking throat.

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Although I agree that you should stick to the pattern for show flies, for "fishing flies", do what you want. There are no wet fly police. And I have never heard a trout say he wasn't going to eat a fly because he prefers collars to throats. When the throat is red or orange, I think of it as gills and prefer a throat to a collar. If the intent is more for shape, legs, or general motion and bugginess, I prefer a collar.

 

For a nice throat, strip the barbules with tips aligned, trim to length, and tie them in below the shank. Another method with a more sparse appearance is to wrap a wet style collar, pull the hackles down and back, and use thread and/or dubbing to secure the fibers downward.

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Is this the concensus? Wrapping a full collar and 'plucking' the tops leaving just the throat?

 

i dont think its a concensus but it is just one way out of many ways to achieve throat hackle

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