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Newbies first brassies


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#1 870ExpressMag

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 07:48 PM

Newbie tyer first attempt at little hooks. These are by far the smallest I have tied yet, Dai-Riki #125 sz16. Tied using tight line video YouTube video as guide. Couple of things I learned and observed....
1. After watching tons of tying videos with the wonderful zoom features on new cameras, these things are MUCH smaller than they look on film.
2. First time using UTC 70denier thread, definitely acts different than UNI 8/0 but wasn't hard to manage
3. Not sure I like Rite bobbin holders, love the smoothness, but gripping is downright weird
4. Peacock hurl is fragile, learned I can't wrap it like wire.
5. Trying to put small beads on small hooks, you guys know what I mean there.
6. Using standard jaws in my PEAK rotary vise, I'm thinking midge jaws may be helpful on these hooks.

Comments and suggestions welcome. First one tied on top, last one on bottom

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 10:26 PM

I don't tie anything that small, so I can only guess at what it's like.  Like eating couscous one piece at a time with a fork.

 

They look good to me!


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 12:22 AM

Great work, keep it up
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Posted 03 November 2016 - 06:16 AM

Im not a freshwater guy but those look like trout candy to me

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 07:18 AM

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 07:19 AM

if the intent is to have gaps in the wire body, then disregard the following tip

 

to achieve a body without gaps, angle the wire slightly back to the bend while wrapping forward in touching turns

 

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after inserting a bead onto a hook, i always insert the wire inside of it as shown below. the wire will be covered by the bead and is something that doesnt need to be done but after years of doing it that way its now a habit. plus it provides a nice smooth underbody

 

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 10:57 AM

thanks for the tips, yes the bottom one was the last one tied.  and the gaps in the wire were not intended, i didn't even notice them until i took the picture, to my naked eye they appeared tighter together than the picture revealed, ill try a few more and post results



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Posted 03 November 2016 - 04:57 PM

They look great for first try flies.They will definitely catch fish.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 06:38 PM

Nice job not getting a space between wire wraps is the hardest part of this fly. Peak should handle 16 just fine. My griffin goes from 24 to 0/1 without a issue I would think the Peak would too. Try a few simple midge and the 16 will seem big.

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 09:42 PM

I tied 4 more tonight and I'd like to think I improved, but I think it's a toss up. I think my wife wraps are a bit tighter, however I'm having trouble starting the wire wraps and not exposing thread. Seems as if I get the thread covered good, the wire wants to keep going further around the bend not towards the eye, when I get it to go towards the eye I have exposed thread, haven't gotten that figured out yet. Pulling towards the bend definitely helps tighten the wraps against themselves. I found the wire much easier to wrap if I whip finish my thread and put in the cradle, however I think the whip finish adds to much bulk in the middle and gives me a bump, so after I tied these 4 I went back to YouTube and a bare hook and learned to half hitch, I will try this next time. Also it seems like a toss up on weather my thorax looks full or not, seems it's 50/50 on weather the long fiber on the hurl poke out or not, i don't like it when they point in and get wrapped inside the hurl stem.

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 04:51 AM

i am gonna assume you are watching this video

 

 

1. watch how he starts the first wrap of wire around the bend of the hook. he begins the wrap perpendicular to the hook shank and keeps wrapping that way towards the eye of the hook

 

2. in your photo #2 above, you had trouble with wrapping a peacock herl thorax. try using black dubbing instead

 

3. if you still want to use peacock herl, reinforce it by wrapping it around your hanging tying thread to create a peacock herl chenille. then wrap the thorax

 

4. tie them on a straight hook. thats how they were tied originally. here is how i really tie brassies

 

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