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#31 WVUontheFLY

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:50 AM

He posted a video on instagram yesterday, I believe, of himself using sand paper to finish a deer hair bug because he had it packed so tightly... He is amazing at what he does



#32 Nomad77

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:30 PM

Fugly, indeed...https://www.youtube....h?v=7ao_DV_pdxY



#33 portlyjoe

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 08:15 PM

that frog is amazing! i wonder how long it takes for him to do that? 



#34 add147

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 08:54 PM

I purchased one of Pat's videos and it doesn't take him long. The deer hair is a flying when he is tying...lol...I hope one day I can see him in person tie deer hair.

#35 TheCream

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Posted 13 March 2015 - 07:15 AM

I purchased one of Pat's videos and it doesn't take him long. The deer hair is a flying when he is tying...lol...I hope one day I can see him in person tie deer hair.

 

What amazes me the most in his videos is how he's able to blend the hair in his hands, by hand, and get everything mixed so well.  I have tried that technique several times and all I do is drop half of the hair on the floor.  I have tried blending hair colors inside a stacker, which works pretty well for me, but watching him do it by hand is awesome. 



#36 add147

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Posted 13 March 2015 - 11:20 AM

I wonder how much deer hair he goes through in year's time. I am sure he gets it at a discounted price since he probably buys in volume. I've tied deer hair and I am by not means even close to his skill nor could I even hold a candle to your tying skills. I just think deer hair tying is pretty neat overall.

#37 Tim Shovel

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 01:24 PM

I love the look of these flies, I'm hearing a lot about packing and spinning deer hair, how would you do that?

#38 Harold Ray

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:13 PM

It is sort of strange that Pat uses his industrial strength hair packer and that Mike doesn't use any hair packer - just his fingers.


Mike does us a deer hair packer, but you can't see it. It is the clear, or nearly so, thick plastic sealer that fits into the top of the cap of one of the head cement bottles, can't remember which one. He packs the hair on.
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#39 Harold Ray

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:25 PM

No offense to Mike George ... but Pat's flies are so much more densely packed. I look at Mike's flies, and I think they look like any other "good" deer hair work.


One question here on this older post: have you ever seen Mike's flies up close and personal or not, handled them, or are you judging from looking at pictures?

I have only seen Cohens flies; I have never handled them. Mike is a friend; I have seen and handled his flies, along with owning quite a few. He has won 1st Place in the Mustad International in his class 8 or 9 years in a row and 1 2nd Place. This is an international competition, and not just anyone does that. Mike is not just another fly tier by any means or stretch of anyone's imagination.

Recently, he and a group of us tied at the annual Sowbug Round-Up in Mountain Home, Arkansas. He tied some beautiful flies.

I have no doubt that Cohen does a great job, too; I like his flies.
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#40 mtyburski

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 01:33 PM

Fabulous tie, that is one area that I haven't even tried yet.



#41 Adam Saarinen

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 01:48 PM

Yeh it's awsome as anything! Showed my pike fly buddy on friday & said what do you think of this pike popper? He nearly fell over! :-)

#42 Mike West

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:37 PM

One I tied a few years ago. First one took me about all day, then I got them down to a couple hrs.

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#43 Nomad77

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 10:42 AM

Awesome, Mike!



#44 Bruce Derington

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 01:17 PM

Working with deer hair is like anything else, takes practice. Static electricity can be a bugger (static guard) and one of the most important issues  is having quality hair, straight , proper length, and not 'over tanned', where some patches can be dry/brittle. I save my long hair for the big stuff. I use a lot of yearling elk hair,  Spirit River. Spinning and stacking is a blast and with a little one on one instruction, most can conquer this so called challenge . Another thing about cranking them out and being productive is to build flies in steps , none of the best tiers compose one at a time from start to finish and with deer hair trimming. its much easier and more consistent to tie up several bugs , then trim, you will find your bugs will become better and all will be more of a 'cookie cutter' look.

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#45 Harold Ray

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 03:34 PM

Neat, Bruce, but you tie good deer/elk hair! I always enjoy your flies.

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