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#1 salmobytes

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 01:34 PM

This is a rare fly.  I haven't seen another.  There are a lot of Al Troth shadow boxes that have been sold at TU auctions.  Al and his son Erik made a lot of them, in Al's Garage in Dillon MT. There may be a few that include this fly but I haven't seen it yet.
 
This is Al's version of the Ed Hewitt Neversink Skater.
Mostly deer hair for the hackle with a twist of Guinea Fowl up front.  Tied on a #8 salmon hook.  The hackle diameter is 2-1/2" inches. This was for night fishing on the Beaverhead River in Montana.  Cool fly.
 
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#2 Lesg

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 02:50 PM

As a kid I had one of these tied by my Great Grandfather but i think it was from the backyard chicken coop. It was about 1 1/2 " in dia. if I remember correctly but  it has disappeared somewhere in the past.



#3 vicente

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 03:26 PM

Is the deer hair put in a loop or spun?

#4 salmobytes

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:10 PM

Loop or spun? I think spun but I'm not certain. I have to give the fly back to its owner tomorrow. I'll look tonight.

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#5 niveker

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:27 PM

Odd that you post that fly today. 

 

Last night I was going through the e-book links posted by flytire and noahguide and came across that pattern, though without the feather, only deer hair. 

 

In the recipes I read, It is indeed spun deer hair, two clumps opposing each other.  I have heard of Hewitt's Neversink Skater, and tied a few up this past Spring, but they have never made it off my desk.  The use of only deer intrigued me.  I will try to find the references again.   



#6 niveker

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:49 PM

I found it quicker than I expected.  It was in Popular Fly Patterns by Terry Hellekson

 

He calls it a Deer Hair Spider, and suggests tying it with a tail of elk hair.  He goes on to mention Hewitts Skater Spider the Troth Hair Spider.  



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 05:31 PM

Theres a fly called the Skitterbug, attributed to Dick Stewart back in 1975, thats pretty much the same as Al Troths. I tied this one up in an SBS a few years ago; unfortunately the photos are no longer available, just this blurry one

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I really like the guinea on the front of the OPs version; kind of a Jingler.

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#8 salmobytes

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 06:55 PM

I miss Dick Stewart.   He was one of the good ones.  His son (can't remember his name) ended up being a full time computer nerd I think.  Somewhat like myself.


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#9 Lesg

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Posted 14 December 2019 - 10:08 AM

A bit of investigation has shown that the fly from my Great Grandfather was a Neversink skater tied completely with hackle not with deer hair. Different fly same concept.