Thanks for the input Coach. I did some looking around and found some differences in the steps I tied and those on other bodies. The tail on the green one is definately maribou and done horribly wrong. I see where I screwed that up. The body, I am sure, was not Maribou. It was a saddle hackle. The gear for the chartreuse came from a kit I got. I compared it to the gear I bought at the fly shop and nonticed how much better the fly shop material was. This may account for some of the look. Also I noticed none of the wooly buggers online were tied on the body like I did. I twisted the sadle around the chineille before I twisted it around the hook. This would seem to make the hackle hold up better. It was tough wrapping the chineille/saddle hackle this way(no rotary vise), but seemed to make the wraps more uniform. Any more thoughts on any of this? Again I appreciate the input.