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Posted 24 October 2005 - 09:19 PM
Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:32 AM
When I was stationed at West Point, we got hair from the Army mascot (mule). I generally use it to spiral wrap the body of a fly, similar to wrapping a quill body. Tied both dries with an Adams wing/hackle and small nymphs. I have seen articles over the years that presented patterns tied with horse hair; I recall a pattern named "Mr. Ed" in a book by Ed Engle "Tying Small Flies" (an excellent book, by the way). Also, look in the Benchside Flytyer's Reference, several "how to" techniques for weaving and braiding.
Al Campbell shows a technique call the Pott's Weave to weave hair; check it out on http://www.flyanglersonline.com, advanced fly tying: woven hackle flies. Well-illustrated and written.
Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:52 AM
I use horsehair in lot of flies and there are flies that I use only horse hair. These are Icelandic flies, streamers, special salmonflies and I use icelandic horsehair called Arctic Runner You can buy this hair on the web;http://www.thefriendlyfisherman.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_HAIR_FUR.html, http://www.sportfish...id=1233&plist=1 and propably other places too.
This hair is great for streamers!
Letters to a Salmon Fisher's Sons
Posted 25 October 2005 - 10:33 AM
Pallagust, do you have any photos of your flies?
I'll try some weaving this evening. If I can get the hang of it, maybe I'll do one for the safety pin swap.
Posted 25 October 2005 - 11:03 AM
Looking for horse hair,
Posted 25 October 2005 - 11:44 AM
I never have seen it in fly shops either. But living in Wyoming, this is the Cowboy State after all. If you can find a street corner, there is probably a horse on it. Pallagust posted a link from Iceland. I might order some just to have differant colors. My brother left some in the garage. I'm going going to go dig it out this afternoon and try using it tonight. I'll let ya know if it works. If it is in decent shape, I can mail you some. I think it is brown and black.
Posted 25 October 2005 - 04:41 PM
Thank for the info and the offer. I have seen some incredible looking flies with horse hair for legs and one of these days I just have to give it a try.
Posted 25 October 2005 - 06:48 PM
Well I dont know if Arctic Runner is sold in the states but you can buy it from some webshops both in Iceland and in UK. I think that Arctic Runner hair is high quality hair to use in streamers, its soft(but not to soft) thin and strong. Love working with this material. I use it alot in Black ghost and other streamers that I like to be more alive in water.
This are some websites I found that contains some more info about arctic runner hair;
Hope you can get your hands on this stuff! I could maybe send you some samples if you like, just PM me.
Letters to a Salmon Fisher's Sons
Posted 26 October 2005 - 11:07 AM
I havent noticed any Artic Runner here. But I think I will order some and try it out. I have some more hair coming in a week or two from a couple horses east of town.
Graham, pm or email me your address and I'll send you some, I got a grocery bag full.
Posted 26 October 2005 - 04:03 PM
How about posting some flies with horsehair so everyone can see some? Like the idea about using them (hair) for legs.
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:21 PM
I echo Gregg A's offer to send horse hair. He is absolutely right; Wyoming has more horses than people. My son feeds the neighbor's horses every evening after school, there is no shortage of horse hair in Crook County, Wyoming.
If you are interested, I will dig through the tying stuff I have not unpacked yet, might be able to find some mule hair from Gen. Scott II, the current Army mule mascot. Not outwardly different from horse hair, just smells worst when it gets wet. Nothing like the aroma from a mule's hind end.
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:42 PM
Thanks for the offer, very much appreciated. I contacted Gregg A and he’s going to send me some horse hair, thanks Gregg. Being a ravenous material junkie makes me want to accept your offer, for horse and stinky mule hair. I bet they all have different coloring, thicknesses and waviness and it will be fun to tye with.
Posted 27 October 2005 - 12:33 AM
Wyknot, I wonder what the horse population is in Wyoming? If we have somewheres around 450,000 people, I bet horses out number us 5 to 1. I should be talking to the Department of Livestock next week, I see if anyone there knows how many horses there are.
Posted 27 October 2005 - 11:21 AM
Posted 27 October 2005 - 11:27 AM
Thank you, this is very much appreciated.
Have a great day,