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EP Fibers "vs" Silky EP Fibers "vs" Angel Hair


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#1 Alex C.

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 02:22 AM

Can someone tell me which of the 3 I'd be better off with. I'll be using it for tying brown trout/brook trout/rainbow trout imitations. Steeldrifter ties some baby rainbows using EP fibers, not sure if he uses the silky or regular, and they really look great in the water. What's the difference beween the 2 types of EP fibers though. If I got the Silky, I'd probably tie them so they're 7" long(full length), and if I got the regular EP fibers I'd probably cut the pack in half and tie them at about 5" long.

Also, alot of you guys sem to really like angel hair, I looked on Cabelas site and the colors are perfect for what I'll be using it for. What is the action like?

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 08:09 AM

check out the fly tyer's dungeon thy have congo hair and water silk. 2 times the amount for 1 dollar a hank.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 04:47 PM

OLB I found that the slinky stuff is a lot thicker than EP fibers. I am slowly replacing my squirrel and bucktail with Slinky fibers. But the EP fibers are great for building baitfish bodies.
Congo hair I was not aware of though.
EP products are pricy for sure.
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 07:20 PM

Congo hair is dirt cheap and you get 2 times the hair!!!!
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#5 Sean Juan

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 07:28 AM

OLB,

Angel hair is a very thin wispy flash material - I don't think it belongs on the same list as the EP fibers.

I'm not certain (keeps getting harder to keep the synth's separate in my mind and the differences between them are getting more and more marginal) but I think the differences between Slinky and Standard EP fibers are largely cosmetic - really not sure though.

I use a lot of congo hair too - at that price its the perfect material for Bluefish or pike flies - I think it is a bit thinner than the EP fibers.
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Posted 19 June 2006 - 09:44 AM

olb
read my thread in this forum about synthetic winging materials

in short, use any, blend whatever you use sparsely

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 12:20 PM

The "silky" EP fiber is alot more like marabou as far as the feel than the normal EP fiber Alex. I tie mine with the standard EP fiber and an extremelly happy with them. The packs are not really expensive IMO (only $4.85 for 10") and you can cut the length in half and get twice as much out of them. I've tried the silky, crinkle, and the standard EP fiber and for trout streamers I seem to like the standard the best.

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#8 Alex C.

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 11:10 AM

Next time you need more SD let me know, I can get them for $2.50 a pack

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 11:13 AM

Thanks for the offer, but so can I wink.gif

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#10 troutguy#1

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 09:12 PM

I am not 100% sure on this, but I think the guy at the fly shop said that the Silky EP Fibers are thinner and wispier than the regular EP Fibers. I say, if you can get it that cheap($10 for 10in. were I get them) , then get some of both and try them out, for yourself.

#11 Ian Yutani

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Posted 30 June 2006 - 01:15 PM

Been using the regular EP fibers for larger baitfish patterns
and the silky for smaller flies. Tied up a number of
crazy charlies for a recent Christmas Island trip using
a sparse amount of ep silky then a few strands of
krystal flash. Worked great.
After using the silky on saltwater patterns, out of curiosity
made some small minnows to troll for rainbows & lake
trout in the float tube here at home. White silky fibers
and colored the top using sharpie marker, trimmed to the
desired body shape.
When in the water (imho) a minnow tied with sparse
amounts of silky fibers makes for more effective fly.
Individual silky fibers catches light better, produces a
cool translucent effect.
Due to my job have only made one king fishing trip
this year. We were drifting along with the tide in
Cook Inlet for kings. Watching for schools, was able
to catch one using a basic baitfish pattern tied with
regular ep on top and white silky on the bottom. Giving
it a white underbelly. Fun.
Saltwater trolling whole herring searching for the
king salmon schools is popular here. My goal was to
duplicate a medium sized herring about 10ft under
the surface. It works. Weighted fly and fast sinking line.
We were the only flyrods out there, surrounded by
baitcasting reels biggrin.gif

Good fishing to all ...

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