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#1 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:03 PM

A new addition to the fly pattern database has been submitted by Cyprinid Carpio:

Clouser Darter



#2 JP66

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:21 AM

Very nice. I'm sure the carp/smallies will love it.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:39 PM

great fly and it will no doubt produce. One observation- the "darter" style tied by the Clousers around here are fuller and fatter, intentionally different than the slim/sparse "deep minnow" style.

I tie them both ways, and all different ways in between, and they all work.

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#4 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (JSzymczyk @ Dec 30 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great fly and it will no doubt produce. One observation- the "darter" style tied by the Clousers around here are fuller and fatter, intentionally different than the slim/sparse "deep minnow" style.

I tie them both ways, and all different ways in between, and they all work.



One thing about any of the Clouser-style flies tied by people other than Bob Clouser is that most of them are tied way too full, even the darters. Too much calf tail, from what I see in the water, just clumps up and really has no movement. I like the slimmer, sparser style, especially since I usually fish smaller, clearer streams where a smaller profile is more effective. Of course in stained, deeper water, the fuller style will push more water and will probably produce better.

#5 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE (JP66 @ Dec 30 2009, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice. I'm sure the carp/smallies will love it.



With my luck, I'm more likely to absolutely slay the longears and rock bass with these dry.gif

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Cyprinid Carpio @ Dec 30 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JP66 @ Dec 30 2009, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice. I'm sure the carp/smallies will love it.



With my luck, I'm more likely to absolutely slay the longears and rock bass with these dry.gif



if you want good luck stay away from northeast ohio lol steelhead know your commin
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#7 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Blackriverbowyer @ Dec 30 2009, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Cyprinid Carpio @ Dec 30 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JP66 @ Dec 30 2009, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice. I'm sure the carp/smallies will love it.



With my luck, I'm more likely to absolutely slay the longears and rock bass with these dry.gif



if you want good luck stay away from northeast ohio lol steelhead know your commin


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#8 JSzymczyk

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (Cyprinid Carpio @ Dec 30 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JSzymczyk @ Dec 30 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great fly and it will no doubt produce. One observation- the "darter" style tied by the Clousers around here are fuller and fatter, intentionally different than the slim/sparse "deep minnow" style.

I tie them both ways, and all different ways in between, and they all work.



One thing about any of the Clouser-style flies tied by people other than Bob Clouser is that most of them are tied way too full, even the darters. Too much calf tail, from what I see in the water, just clumps up and really has no movement. I like the slimmer, sparser style, especially since I usually fish smaller, clearer streams where a smaller profile is more effective. Of course in stained, deeper water, the fuller style will push more water and will probably produce better.


right, they all work. By my comment, I meant that Bob Clouser and Bob C. Jr. live a couple miles from me and the patterns were developed literally within sight of where I am sitting. All I was saying is that the "Darter" style is dressed by them fuller than the "deep minnow" style, intentionally. Yeah, I'm happy to be here, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with your interpretation of the style. Looks as if it will fish very well. As dressed by The Man himself, and as described in "Clouser's Flies" the Darter style has an extra clump of calf tail tied in under the lead eyes, which sets the style apart from the deep minnow.

(BTW, there is nothing wrong with Longears and Rock Bass!! smile.gif )

Does anyone know

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#9 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (JSzymczyk @ Dec 31 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Cyprinid Carpio @ Dec 30 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JSzymczyk @ Dec 30 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great fly and it will no doubt produce. One observation- the "darter" style tied by the Clousers around here are fuller and fatter, intentionally different than the slim/sparse "deep minnow" style.

I tie them both ways, and all different ways in between, and they all work.



One thing about any of the Clouser-style flies tied by people other than Bob Clouser is that most of them are tied way too full, even the darters. Too much calf tail, from what I see in the water, just clumps up and really has no movement. I like the slimmer, sparser style, especially since I usually fish smaller, clearer streams where a smaller profile is more effective. Of course in stained, deeper water, the fuller style will push more water and will probably produce better.


right, they all work. By my comment, I meant that Bob Clouser and Bob C. Jr. live a couple miles from me and the patterns were developed literally within sight of where I am sitting. All I was saying is that the "Darter" style is dressed by them fuller than the "deep minnow" style, intentionally. Yeah, I'm happy to be here, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with your interpretation of the style. Looks as if it will fish very well. As dressed by The Man himself, and as described in "Clouser's Flies" the Darter style has an extra clump of calf tail tied in under the lead eyes, which sets the style apart from the deep minnow.

(BTW, there is nothing wrong with Longears and Rock Bass!! smile.gif )


So there's calf along the shank/tail, one on top of the shank in front of the eyes and one under the shank in front of the eyes? That's a lot of baby cows with no tail laugh.gif


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Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:45 PM

Clouser's book, and one of my "darter" flies. Just an example, not right, not wrong. Maybe a little too long. Notice how the reference fly in the book, tied by Clouser himself, is tied very full compared to the "deep minnow" style.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 08:34 PM

I just got that book a couple weeks ago and haven't yet tied from it. Never tied any of the Clouser flies, but as I was reading through it the Darters sure caught my eye as a fine base pattern for steelhead around here. We don't have any "darters" in the waters here but that profile and size with some creative color is going to catch some steel. Plus I love tying with calf tail.

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#12 Cyprinid Carpio

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:50 PM

I actually looked at the book at the fly shop and I admit, I was wrong! Apparently the recipe I had was wrong. Since when can you not trust the internet??? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (JSzymczyk @ Jan 7 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clouser's book, and one of my "darter" flies. Just an example, not right, not wrong. Maybe a little too long. Notice how the reference fly in the book, tied by Clouser himself, is tied very full compared to the "deep minnow" style.

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