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Riding On Air


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#1 DHC

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:59 AM

Riding On Air

Recently West Water Products home of the Thingamabobber located in Pleasant Grove, Utah came out with a new product they call the Thingamabody. This product is simply a small piece of enclosed tubing that allows a fly tier to attach an air bubble to a hook making a fly virtually unsinkable. This product is rather costly, but what if there was a way to accomplish the same methodology with a more inexpensive product? Just think a fly riding on air.

With this thought in mind several years ago I stumbled onto such a concept while using Heat Shrink to repair an electrical cord that had been damaged. The idea was simple just take a small section of Heat Shrink and use a low wattage soldering iron to reduce the size of the ends and then crimp, plug, or seal by crimping the ends – Walla, you have an unsinkable air bubble to attach to a hook. (Examples)Attached File  2_Picture.jpg   77.12KB   0 downloads

Since I tied the first Heat Shrink fly, I have found better Heat Shrink materials and developed tying techniques that have allowed me to produce unsinkable Heat Shrink flies that look and act on the water very much like the natural insects. This material and methods allow a fly tier to modify the patterns he or she ties in such a way that they can look like traditional flies or something entirely different. By different we mean more life-like because there is no longer a need to provide lots of foams, hair or hackle to achieve floatation and maintain buoyancy (Examples). Attached File  Salmon 3-1-1.jpg   78.99KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Salmon 1-1-2.jpg   82.26KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Rated-X Damsel+1.jpg   74.65KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Skwala2.jpg   83.98KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Syn Wulf.jpg   94.67KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Hybrid Imitator Silhouette.JPG   91.14KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Dave's Bubble Emerger-2.jpg   69.39KB   0 downloadsAttached File  PMD-1.jpg   7.92KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Newmorea.jpg   4.5KB   0 downloadsAttached File  Chrnoblyl Ant-1.jpg   8.29KB   0 downloads


Could this method of fly tying have the ability to revolutionize how dry flies are tied? Possibly, because Heat Shrink tubing allows a tier to attach an air bubble applied to the hook which then makes the fly unsinkable. This air bubble provides unsurpassed floatation in any type of water, and if properly tied makes a fly that has the characteristics of real insects. We created a blog (http://unsinkableflies.blogspot.com/) to keep tiers informed of new and different techniques as well as products that have been found to be useful in tying flies using Heat Shrink to make them ride on air.

 


#2 fairwxflyfish

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:32 PM

How does this feel to the fish, by that I mean does the fly have hard edges at the ends of the HST ?

Would a fish like a trout spit this out faster then a mouth full of diesel fuel ?

They remind me of the molded plastic body flies of the 80's ..

But and there is always a but - If they have soft edges, sit on the water correctly, behave on the water correctly and are durable..

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:12 PM

it has already been done for stoneflies

http://flyanglersonl.../010807fotw.php

not sure if the material is heat shrink tube

Poor quality materials and tools are destined to discourage beginner and experienced tiers and cause greater expense when the time comes to replace them.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 09:57 PM

If you ever catch me using this crap to tie a "fly", shoot me.
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#5 JSzymczyk

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 05:46 PM

Everything old will be new again.

It's a cool idea, but hardly "new", and "revolutionize" is on the get-real side of optimistic.

I think this has great possibilities for bass poppers and bream bugs and things like that, and less so for trout flies. Not to say you can't catch trout on poppers, but you know what I mean.

We've been dinking around with enclosed air bubbles in flies for decades, at least. The Japanese style cellophane balloon extended mayfly bodies immediately come to mind. No doubt heat-shrink is more durable, but less lifelike (or whatever).


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Posted 11 October 2010 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (troutguy @ Oct 10 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you ever catch me using this crap to tie a "fly", shoot me.


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Posted 11 October 2010 - 07:07 PM

oh joy, another infomercial post.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 07:10 PM

holy crap if you can't make a fly float with hackle cdc or something else what makes you think an air bubble will work any better plus with the added weight of the heat shrink tube I'm not so sure it would float anyway

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 07:21 PM

Interesting idea, I'd be curious what the fish think.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 06:30 AM

how much does a 1/2 inch long piece of heat shrink tubing weigh?? dunno.gif

i'll bet these unibobber weigh more than heat shrink tubing


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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE (riffleriversteelheadslayer @ Oct 11 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
holy crap if you can't make a fly float with hackle cdc or something else what makes you think an air bubble will work any better plus with the added weight of the heat shrink tube I'm not so sure it would float anyway



Specific Gravity of THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN in clear is .95 which means it floats without any air bubble. Colored thin wall products weigh more up to a specific gravity of 1.4

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:22 AM

QUOTE (flytire @ Oct 12 2010, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how much does a 1/2 inch long piece of heat shrink tubing weigh?? dunno.gif

i'll bet these unibobber weigh more than heat shrink tubing



Unibobbers are made of a harder polymer like polyehtylene LLDPE with a specific gravity of .96-.97 which means they float. THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN in clear has a specific gravity of .95 the difference is that it is softer. Colored THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN depending on color can have a specific gravity of up to 1.4. You can use the Unibobber and THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN together.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE (smallieFanatic @ Oct 11 2010, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting idea, I'd be curious what the fish think.



I have tied all types of dry flies with THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN heat shrink. They work as well, if not better,m than traditional dry flies without the use of floatants. If you really want them to float high add floatant.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE (fairwxflyfish @ Oct 10 2010, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does this feel to the fish, by that I mean does the fly have hard edges at the ends of the HST ?

Would a fish like a trout spit this out faster then a mouth full of diesel fuel ?

They remind me of the molded plastic body flies of the 80's ..

But and there is always a but - If they have soft edges, sit on the water correctly, behave on the water correctly and are durable..

Then GREATBRINGTHEMON!!!


THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN heat shrink is soft unlike the molded Unibobber. If you used heat and thread to attach it to the hook there is very little to no hard edges. Heat shrink is tough and will outlast other materials on the fly and if tied correctly will float like a real insect.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (DHC @ Oct 12 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (riffleriversteelheadslayer @ Oct 11 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
holy crap if you can't make a fly float with hackle cdc or something else what makes you think an air bubble will work any better plus with the added weight of the heat shrink tube I'm not so sure it would float anyway



Specific Gravity of THIN WALL CROSS-LINKED POLYOLEFIN in clear is .95 which means it floats without any air bubble. Colored thin wall products weigh more up to a specific gravity of 1.4


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