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How do you spell tyer or tier

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#1 bluegill576

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:21 PM

I was wondering how you guys spell tyer. I think that it is tyer like the magazine (fly tyer), but the way that the dictionary says is tier. How do you guys spell it.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:35 PM

Depends what english your using. I suspect tyer is british originally and tier is american. here in canada our english is much closer to britsh english versus american english. as an example america spells nite where as we spell it night is all semantics anyways.
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#3 Flytyer14

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:51 PM

the proper grammar is tier, the computer doesn't even recognize tyer (see the red lines when you type it?)
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#4 bluegill576

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Flytyer14 @ Apr 21 2011, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the proper grammar is tier, the computer doesn't even recognize tyer (see the red lines when you type it?)

I guesse the "proper" spelling depends on where you are. (just noticed that you only have 6 more posts till you hit 2000)

#5 NJFlyMAn

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 07:02 PM

I spell it all the time {tyer} just to be different. And I think everyone understands the word {tyer} when i use it? If they don't? Oh well...

#6 troutguy

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 08:05 PM

Only one book comes up on Amazon spelled tier. All the others are tyer, most if not all American published and authored. The most notable American's referred to their craft as tyers.


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#7 horizons

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 08:16 PM

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/007135736X


Always heard tyer was proper. They say our kids will never know how to spell in a few more years because of spell check.

#8 FrequentTyer

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 08:38 PM

I agree that it should be tyer. But I do often change it out of impulse when I see the spell check error. Anyone want to weigh in on the plural form of fly smile.gif

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:45 PM

The correct way to spell night is night both in Great Britian, Canada, and The United States.

Spell check will indicate that tyer is missspelled, and a google search on "fly tyer" brings more hits that a search on "fly tier." The search on Bing, also brings more hits on "fly tier (231,000 hits on "fly tyer" and 32,000,000 hits on "fly tier.")

This would indicate that tier is the more common spelling, but when you start to type fly tyer into a google search, the drop down list many common additions, like Fly Tyer magazine, Fly Tyers Dungeon etc.

For what ever reason, the way we WANT to spell it, and the "correct" way don't always seem to be in agreement.

I spell it tyer as in utyer.
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#10 utyer

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 09:45 PM

Sorry double post

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:22 AM

Tyer is a misspelling. This was done by Fly Tyer Magazine because "Fly Tier" is a generic word that could not be trademarked. They invented "Tyer" but over the years people began spelling it the same way because that is how then seen it on the magazine.

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#12 Big J

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 10:50 AM

I always thought tyer was the correct usage. Thought tier mean't levels or different ranks. Oh well, grammar isn't my specialty..... (I suck at it.)

#13 salty fly

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:34 AM

I spell it both ways,I dont know just do.I like the Britt.V. USA That sounds right. I suck at spelling anway.


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#14 FrequentTyer

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 04:31 PM

Google has a fun tool to play with this sort of thing: http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/

The link below shows the usage of flytyer and flytier in books that are included in the Google Books archive from 1500 - present day:
http://ngrams.google...amp;smoothing=3

So this makes it look like flytyer is older. but if you separate the word (i.e fly tyer) you get rather different results. If you just use tyer and tier you get skewed results due to the alternate meanings of tier.



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Posted 23 April 2011 - 06:08 PM

That's pretty interesting.