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Buying a new vise
Posted 17 November 2004 - 03:30 PM
I started tying about three years ago, with cheap kit vise which was constantly breaking and would not hold hooks well. So two years ago I had bought the Thompson Cobra Vise. Which is sexy and is alot of fun to tie with but has one distinct flaw.
The jaws break and send shards of metal flying at my face. This has happend twice now since I've owned the vise and I am fed up with it. Thompson, who is not Thompson anymore have kindly replaced the jaw pieces both times without hassle and tell me that this is not common place for the vise. Although they say the vise is set up for any size hook I am starting to wonder if it just does better with small hook sizes. I need suggestions, for a bulletproof vise.
I fish primarly for pike, smallies and largemouth so the majority of my tying occurs on 1 to 3/0 stainless steel hooks...I don't know if the stainless steel hooks are what keeps breaking the vise jaws or what... Maybe I should look at a saltwater vise? Money is not my primary benchmark on what I will buy, I would like a vise that works well. Give me your thoughts...Thanks in advance to anyone who responds
Posted 17 November 2004 - 03:35 PM
NYC, Jersey Shore, Eastern PA, occasionally Downeast Maine
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Posted 17 November 2004 - 03:39 PM
Its hard to tell some one what vice will suit them best so i'm not even going to try, but i will give you a link (you may have read it already) that has tons of opinions on vices.
Owner- Steve Clark
Posted 17 November 2004 - 04:01 PM
My other vise is a regal - its not Sexy but since I am Sean Juan together we are sexy enough, no? A regal will hold hooks up to 4/0 without trouble 6/0 you are probably asking for it.
Best thing to do would be to find the largest hook you are likely to use and try it in the vise.
Also look at the Barracuda Jr...they look pretty sharp and if they are anything like their big brother you'll do fine.
Posted 17 November 2004 - 04:09 PM
Both great vices for the price... I still use the one that came with my kit I just can't keep myself from buying tying supplies long enough to save for one.
Posted 17 November 2004 - 04:42 PM
One thing with buying a vise, is to make sure you buy one you'll truly use. Rotaries aren't for everyone, and is a waist to pay the money for one that isn't going to rotate. I use my religiously (especially on big orders), so it's a plus for me to have. Some don't use it at all, and a standard vise will work. I love the dynaking jaws, and alot of their vises carry them. Works for all my tying. I had a regal, and will say I liked it. But I got it AFTER I had my dynaking, and just have a hard time working with non rotaries anymore. LOL.
I think what you need to do is try a few different vises before you buy. You may find that a norvise suites you better then a dynaking (that's just an example lol, not a recommendation). There are alot of good vises out there. By time I'm done, I'll have quite a few. LOL. I've used most. When I finally settled on the Cuda', I had tried them all out at that time. The norvise was a close second. Will be buying one here soon too hopefully. Had a problem with slippage at one time with the bigger hooks (I'm tying at least up to 2/0 salmon hooks, and sometimes bigger with saltwater trolling hooks). But heard the jaws were changed. Thanks to Mr Lucas for letting me know about that.
Posted 17 November 2004 - 05:16 PM
I tried this vice when I bought it but didn't expect this problem and only experienced it after the vise had been used for a while...Such is life...
Posted 18 November 2004 - 12:50 PM
My Primary vise is an HMH Pro, not a true rotary, but then I don't need one. If you want hook holding power and exceptional "fit and finish" in a vise I highly recommend this one.
Posted 18 November 2004 - 01:10 PM
If the above isn't a viable option check out a local TU chapter or fly tying club and see if the guys will let you try tying on their vises. I found on many that I tried that they just didn't feel comfortable as I used them. I can't advise on any of the rotary's as I don't use them but the guys here will be able to tell you about them.
Hope you find one soon.
Posted 19 November 2004 - 12:04 PM
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Posted 19 November 2004 - 04:44 PM
A Barracuda would be my second choice however.
Posted 26 November 2004 - 08:52 AM
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 11:56 PM
Posted 10 December 2004 - 07:44 AM
There are two adjustments on the Renz Prez that eliminate the problem Will had. In fact, one of the adjustments allow you to stop the rotation at any angle (not just at detents) or give it enough friction to tie at any angle and rotate to another and tie, without touching a knob after the initial adjustment.