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[Obi]

Dear all,

I recently started tying Czech Nymphs, and so far, I am pretty happy with the results. That's probably due to the fact that Czechs in general are probably not a difficult patern.

However there is one Czech Nymph that offers a little detail that I hav no clue about how to tie. It is called the "Royal Bobesh". For those who may not be familiar with, here's a link: It's the one on the top......

Royal Bobesh

I got no idea on how to tie the golden thorax? I want to use thin yellow-golden wire for that, since this is what I have on stock. How can the thorax be made, achieving both good looks and durability? Would you experts kindly clue me in?


Hints and comments highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!


Cheers, Obi

[flytire]

assuming the fly above is the royal bobesh (its from your link) i would tie the fly in its entirety on 3/4 of the hook, then tie in the wire or tinsel and build up the are behind the eye as shown in the picture. tie off the thread and coat that area with uv resin or head cement or sally hansens

tie in the wire/tinsel where the body ends, wrap over the wire/tinsel with your thread to the eye of the hook. now wrap the wire/tinsel in touching turns back to the end of the are you want covered by the wire/tinsel and then wrap back to the eye of the hook. you now have 2 layers of wire/tinsel.

or tie the fly in its entirety with less dubbing up front, the tie in the wire/tinsel and do the process described above.

[Piker20]

I would go with the above advice or wind the wire as an under body on whole fly to aid weight and tie in the body to 3/4 as said then finish wire 1/4 and coat.

[lykos33]

So you are basically going to tie the fly in 2 stages...the back fuzzy 3/4 with scud back, and then the front 1/4 with a built up under body and a glue secured tinsel or wire front 1/4...
Murray

[flytire]

or tie the fly in its entirety with less dubbing up front, then rib the fly with wire/tinsel as most czech nymphs have a wire rib and then wrap the thorax are with wire/tinsel.

think up different ways to tie it!

the fly in the photo has 2 distinct areas. how would you tie it?

[Wavey1988]

Hmmmm I think I might try that with gold beads, instead of wire

[Obi]

Dear all,

thank you very much for your repies. Based on your comments, I have a pretty good picture now on how to tie this Czech!

@Wavey1988: Gold Bead - actually a good idea! However, that would probably lead to other challenges, like:
- Where would you tie in the scud back foil then?
- The silhouette (do you say that? I am not a native speaker, remember.... )of the nymph would be changed. For Czech Nymphs, a slim silhouette seams to be a key element.
- Would you add additional lead-wire or leave that away?

How would I now tie the Royal Bobesh - just my 2 Cents, and including your suggestions:

#1: start with wrapping the hook shank with lead wire - cover with super glue and let dry
#2: basic wrap
#3: Tie in the ripping, a piece of monofil. Orientation: Front -> End of hook
#4: Dubb 3/4 of the body, using direct dubbing method
#5: Tie in the gold wire along the remaining 1/4 of the hook shank. Orientation: Front->End
#6: Continue dubbing, last remaining 1/4 of hook shank (probably use a little less dubbing material)
#7: Tien in the scud back at the hook eye and stretch it a little along the back of the nymph
#8: Fix the scud back at the end of the hook, using the monofil (#3)
#9: rip the nymph body with monofil, orientation: end->front.
#10: Fix the monofil at the hook eye wit a couple wraps of tying-silk (finishing-knots with the monofil work well, too)
#11: Start with the golden thorax,using touching wraps. Orientation: End->front.
#12: Fix the gold wire with acouple wraps of tying silk. Finish the nymph
#13: Cover the thorax-part with UV-resin and then with a thin layer of clear nail polish.


Not sure if I made myself clear What do you think - would that work?


Cheers, Obi

[riffleriversteelheadslayer]

try it this way tie the foil in first at the back of hook and then tie in your ribbing wrap your lead super glue then cover with thread dub the body 3/4 of hook stretch the foil tie down rib with mono then tie in wire wrap forward last 1/4 of hook whip finish and add head cement

[flytire]

moved to step by step category

[flytire]

sorry double post

[Obi]

Good Morning!

@flytire - thanks a bunch! That tying recipe was exactly what I was looking for!


Cheers,

Obi