troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Fishing the Davidson River in North Carolina below the hatchery is always drama. Intense drama. Especially during warm months. Smooth water, huge fish over twenty inches and an incredible fishing pressure. Those huge floating logs slowly drifting up sipping every fly but yours. This fly gives a great profile and is sparse enough to fool the trout that have seen the entire Umpqua catalogue . This fly has always been the saver. Sometimes in fly fishing you have to save the drama for your momma and catch fish. This is the fish catcher . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
add147 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2016 How about a SBS? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Get another swapper add147 and I will send you two of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Add147 I will send SBS with your return thundercreeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Are you seriously dangling an explanation for how you tied a fly in exchange for someone setting up a swap and sending you flies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lesg 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Are you seriously dangling an explanation for how you tied a fly in exchange for someone setting up a swap and sending you flies? I agree Cold. I thought this was a fun, knowledge sharing site not a negotiating table. Les Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheech 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Are you seriously dangling an explanation for how you tied a fly in exchange for someone setting up a swap and sending you flies? I don't see the harm in it... However.. This fly looks pretty simple, I'll take a stab at it. Hook: Daiichi 1130 (or similar curved shank hook) probably a 14 or 16 Thread: Dirty Yellow thread to match the body Body: Yellowish ultra chenille to match the thread Post: Any para post material (I'd use white EP fibers) Hackle: Light dun saddle or cape hackle Lash down the chenille Tie in para post and hackle Wind hackle Whip finish If I were doing this fly, I'd singe the end of the chenille a bit more to taper it down, and I'd add a micro thorax of beaver dub for neatness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kudu 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 He is already in the swap. He is just recruiting more swappers. No big deal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 John Gribb of Wisconsin has a similar pattern for the spring creeks of the Wisconsin Driftless Area. The pattern was featured in Trout Magazine, Fall 2012 Issue. The article is available on line here: http://online.qmags.com/TU0912S#pg5&mode2 It is also described in this blog and this post: http://www.tu.org/blog-posts/how-tie-john-gribbs-sb-foam-mayfly http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=83736&p=665936 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 He is already in the swap. He is just recruiting more swappers. No big deal! Ah, gotcha. I was reserving judgement as I wasn't quite sure what was going on. That makes much more sense! I never visit the swap section, so I pretty much forgot that swaps were even a thing. Good to see you swappers seeing activity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Are you seriously dangling an explanation for how you tied a fly in exchange for someone setting up a swap and sending you flies? WOW Cold.......that is...well, you know.....COLD. No I am offering instruction and free flies to someone in a swap I organized to get other swap members. It is called bribery. I don't want flies. I tie too many as it is. Cheech don't make it more complicated then it needs to be. The fly is pretty well thought out for its pupose. It fools very selective trout. The ultra or micro chenile needs to be held in a flame first, Trim the melted part back a bit, so it isn't noticeable. If you don't, the chenile unwinds. Doug Swisher and Carl Richards worked to make low floating natural profile Mayflies in the 1970's and this is a prodigy of their ideas. The dubbing makes the fly sit wrong in the water. So does adding to much hackle. In still water I tie a wrap or a wrap and a half of hackle. Going a size larger on the hackle gives the fly a better surface tension. Simple very effective fly that floats low, easy to mend and gives you a long natural bug and a long natural drift. Be careful of the head size as well. The hook is an older Mustad size 12. More of an egg hook than a caddis or scud type. The large hook bend acts as a better keel yet keeps the hook small and unobtrusive. The post could even be a bit of bright egg yarn if you have trouble seeing the fly in the glare. The trouble with parachute flies is they are commonly tied with too much stuff and they sit funny on the surface. For a fly designed to get rid of drama on the Davidson River, this has certainly added drama to this thread, LOL. Or have we taken ourselves too serious on this site? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 OK so who wants to tie Thundercreeks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 We may have been typing at the same time, so maybe you didn't see my second post. I just wasn't sure what exactly was going on, but it seemed ridiculous that someone would share a pattern, then when asked about it, say, "I'll tell you if you...", which is why I asked...because I didn't think someone would really do that. Good luck on the Davidson! I've fished it before, and while there are trout to be had, some sections of that water are where trout go to get their post-grad, it would seem. I much preferred the upper reaches of the North Fork French Broad, as well as the smaller streams up along the Blue Ridge Parkway, but for bigger, educated fish, the Davidson was a real test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lesg 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 troutguy, Apologies. Didn't catch the swap angle in your post. Les Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutguy 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2016 We may have been typing at the same time, so maybe you didn't see my second post. I just wasn't sure what exactly was going on, but it seemed ridiculous that someone would share a pattern, then when asked about it, say, "I'll tell you if you...", which is why I asked...because I didn't think someone would really do that. Good luck on the Davidson! I've fished it before, and while there are trout to be had, some sections of that water are where trout go to get their post-grad, it would seem. I much preferred the upper reaches of the North Fork French Broad, as well as the smaller streams up along the Blue Ridge Parkway, but for bigger, educated fish, the Davidson was a real test. OMG no offense taken!!!!!!!!!!! I saw you second post after I posted, but I still would have called you......COLD LOL I am running a swap for Thundercreek streamers and trying to fill it. I love the challenge of the Hatchery Run on the Davidson. I have heard cursing and observed rods thrown. I love to fish behind someone who thinks they are an expert. One trick I will publicly talk about is when fishing a hole that has those huge post breeder trout that have seen everything, follow a guy that puts down every midge, nymph, small dry, san juan gardener or whatever. Tie on a #2 muddler minnow or a large sculpin head and slap it on the water. Let it sit and count to ten and retrieve. Especially in the Fall it brings out the predatory nature, not hunger. Hey Cold and LesG I am deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeply offended by your offensive comments. I will never accept your apologies unless you fill up my Thundercreek swap. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
