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#31 SilverCreek

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:26 AM

I use a 4 turn whip finish and no head cement. It is a lot quicker than using on head cement.


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#32 DrLogik

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:07 PM

Whip finish and head cement on all flies.



#33 mikechell

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:24 PM

I do two turns with a little Superglue on them, then I do four half hitches with superglue on the last hitch, then I do three whip finishes of 6 turns each.  Coat that with a few layers of fingernail polish.  Then I do a couple of full windsor knots and a bowtie knot just to make it look pretty.  Coat all of that with a thick layer of UV resin and set it.

 

Them there flies don't never fall apart.  Don't catch no fish, neither ... but they sure don't fall apart !!!

 

 

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#34 cphubert

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:47 PM

Mike, I'm assuming black thread only for the bowtie and Windsor knots...  formal flies  :)



#35 mikechell

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:49 PM

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#36 xterrabill

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:23 PM

the thread is now formal?

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#37 j8000

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 01:55 PM

For me it depends on many factors.  1. weather or not I've lost my whipping tool, then several half hitches 2. weather or not I cement.  If I cement, then I use less whipping turns if I don't, then I usually like other use 2 whip knots with 4-6 turns. 3. if it's a snelled on a blind hook, then I rarely do more than a 4 turn whip or use half hitches then almost always put at least on coat of cement on it. 4. If I want a shinny head, a small or large head ect.  Either way I most always apply a generous amount of wax before making the finishing knot.



#38 JSzymczyk

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:16 PM

it makes a big difference depending on what type of fly you are finishing.    A Catskill dry fly with one hackle stem being held down by the final wraps?   Probably one half hitch with waxed thread will hold well enough.    A heavily dressed bucktail?   Try a half hitch and get back to me.  I take pride in my flies.   A whip finish is easy, very secure, and instills confidence.  At the finishing head of a fly, I have yet to run into a situation where a whip finish is NOT better than a half hitch.   I first learned to do a whip finish by hand when I was maybe 12?    I had been tying for a couple years up that point, learning from books checked out of the library.  A couple of school friends also were tying flies, and I remember being fairly proud that I had figured it out... I stuck with doing a hand whip finish for many many years.  Now I use a tool most of the time.   Perhaps due to rougher skin on my fingers, and up-close vision not being what it was when I was 30, I feel a whip tool gives me better control.  


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 10:28 AM

I almost always just whip by hand. I honestly don't even know how to half hitch a fly. The number of turns, whips and wether or not I use cement depends on the size of the fly. Small quick flies and carp flies go without cement. Most streamers, and more involved flies get shhan after a couple 4 turn whips.