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Wooly bugger hackle?


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#1 dawgvet

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:22 PM

So I've been wanting to tie up some smaller Buggers, may be size 10.  Do you all use Whiting Bugger Packs for most of your wooly buggers or just some larger feathers off a dry fly neck? I really like the looks of solid color hackle on black Buggers. Do you all use grizzly mostly or solid colors on Wooly Buggers?

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#2 Charlie P. (NY)

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:35 PM

For palmering a Bugger the worse the better for my preferences.  I get inexpensive "Indian" or "Chinese" necks and saddles.  Soft, webby fibers.

 

Something like these for $6

 

https://www.feather-...7-saddle-hackle

 

For the smaller ones the necks - I tie woolly buggers down to size 12.

 

Again - $6 (and less) capes.

 

http://store.hookhac...s/products/274/

 

http://store.hookhac...s/products/275/

 

(Sometimes one does approach Dry Fly quality and those I use for larger dry flies or foam ants).


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#3 tjm

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:37 PM

Every cape and every saddle I own has some webby feathers in it. I have never bought or used a Bugger Pack, so not sure what that is. Some years ago I got a couple mediocre grade saddles that were almost all usable for buggers. don't recall now who sold them. 



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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:57 PM

Bill Keough has the best Wooly Bugger saddles in my mind (Cabela's saddle source last I heard), and while I tend to use solid colors for black Wooly Buggers, I use Keough dyed grizzly for everything else.  Unfortunately the feather-in-the-hair craze drove up the prices of these saddles significantly, and they aren't the steal they once were, but they are perfect for small Buggers and a single saddle will last a very long time.  For larger sizes, strung hackle is sufficient, and for really small ones, I like hen hackle.  YMMV.



#5 vicente

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:07 PM

The Ewing hackle from sportsmen's is a pretty good deal these patches would be good if you want to get multiple colors.

https://www.sportsma...-patch/p/p42492

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 06:02 PM

I usually use what I have available, what's left of old saddles and necks.   I tie them down to size 16 and 18, usually 3xl or 4xl hooks.  At that point, I'm using the smallest hackle I can find.   For larger ones I'll use webby saddle hackles or schapplen and on one of my salt water flies that has a woolly bugger type body I use spey hackle.  I don't think I've ever used grizzly hackle, possibly on a lighter color body like white or yellow.  I did try grizzly on a couple of the smaller ones but didn't like the look,  


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#7 Bryon Anderson

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 08:12 PM

For palmering a Bugger the worse the better for my preferences.  I get inexpensive "Indian" or "Chinese" necks and saddles.  Soft, webby fibers.

 

Something like these for $6

 

https://www.feather-...7-saddle-hackle

 

For the smaller ones the necks - I tie woolly buggers down to size 12.

 

Again - $6 (and less) capes.

 

http://store.hookhac...s/products/274/

 

http://store.hookhac...s/products/275/

 

(Sometimes one does approach Dry Fly quality and those I use for larger dry flies or foam ants).

Ditto. I did once buy a Whiting Bugger Pack because I liked the color (olive grizzly), but I normally just go for the cheapest, webbiest saddle hackle I can find in the appropriate color. 


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Posted 24 March 2019 - 06:44 AM

i just use the feather from a cape that wont be used for something else. no need to buy specialty feathers

 

 

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#9 sandflyx

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 07:37 AM

Find a farm with chickens running around ask for permission to collect feathers or buy their young roosters or offer to buy the skins. best bugger feather there is.


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#10 fishinguy

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 08:10 AM

I have a whiting bugger pack in grizzly. Ordered it online. It's terrible honestly. Vast majority of the feathers only look good on size 6 or bigger. I mostly use them for streamer tails.