I am putting together a beginners kit for fly tying. I am wondering how much difference, if any, my selection of tools might make, with respect to brand name, etc. I am going to start off with just a few tools in addition to my vise. I bought a DanVise. I will probably be tying mostly larger flies. I will do some small stream/creek trout fishing, but a lot of the ties will be used for smallies, largemouth, panfish and larger trout, etc. I am assuming that a ceramic bobbin is the way to go. Should I buy the bass/salt-water size or standard size? What brands are best? Griffin? Tiemco? Is brand that important? What scissors? I'd like to buy locally. There are no fly shops here per se, but some of the sporting goods stores carry some supplies. I've not found any sales people at these stores who know very much. I've found Anvil and Dr. Slick, and lots of inexpensive scissors. The Dr. Slick are the $10-$12 models. The Anvil are twice as much. The others run $5-$7. Is there any reason to buy a Matarelli brand whip finisher? Are the other brands that look like it just as good? How about hackle pliers? I've read quite a few comments that none of them are any good. Do I need a rotating hackle pliers if I have a rotating vise? I am assuming any bodkin or bobbin threaders would be adequate. Agree? Disagree? I decided to do this because I am going through too many Clousers, and it doesn't look like they should be too hard to tie... AND I have been interested in doing it for a long time. I plan to take some lessons... but my wife wants some ideas for Christmas presents from the kids, so I'd like to give her some specific ideas. Thanks!