Bruce Derington

Heh guys I've seen the magic heads to put on front of flies but what I'm looking for is more of a type of "spoon" that you would have on a Rapala. Any one know of a site that might have someyhing like that. I think that by having a diving vain on the front of a large streamer would impart some great action for enticing those larger Browns

Joe Hard mentions a great tip, typically the spinning and or stacking should start 1/16or so of a inch in front of thr hook point, there is actually a small gap between the collar/leg tie in point and where you begin your 1st clump, listen don't get me wrong Your fly is great but it appears as though the collar and legs are compressed due to the deer hair pressing on it, hope this tip helps

Thanks guys , I'm glad you like them. Joe I use what ever adheasive Chris Helm is selling - presently I think its called Bond 526 or 527, anyway the most importatant thig is I burn a small socket then scrape residual out of socket and simply ad a small amt. and insert eyes. jschmidt-- I pretty much tie just like Helm, where we tie down the collar with a half hitch to keep them away while trimming and its pretty much the last step in the fly, simply knick the knot with edge of razor and its hirtory Thanks again for your comments----MORE TO COME

Nice job :headbang: It will fish fine ! The different colors are well defind and you didn't crowd the head. I would suggest tying the legs a little longer and use at least 3 feathers per side when making the legs, this will impart more action. When tying in the collar in front of the legs we normally tie in big webby feathers and there should be 2 or more of those tyed in as well. I learned from Jimmy Nix and Chris Helm and they both have great vids on techniques.It looks like your well on your way to tying great bugs, just remember to pack each clump then a small drop of head cement after each one, this really keeps the bug from falling apart.Also, never put a wet bug away, always let it dry 1st.

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Heres a couple bass bugs that have done well for me so I thought I'de post them They float like a cork and really move the water when you give them a jerk. Great for largemouths and have had a pike or two smack em.

I don't need t o fish these to tell you they'de work on St. Clair, we've tried similar patterns there and found them to be quite effective. Purple is the sh..t, it always catches fish. These are perfect for small mouth and would definately call in some browns(maybe alittle longer) Very nice

Steelie, I thought I saw A post of you ribbing someone and you mentioned Salmon in the Little in July,it must have been someone else. This is 10th year on the Little for me in regards to early runs

She was released

Steelie, your giving away a not so secret hot spot!

We fish Lake ST Claire here in Mi. and this would be a great fly,for all species Carp included!

Dano, Several years ago Poul Jorgenson showed me one of his favorate tools, I made one up and over the years its become one of mine als. Its a eye brush(avon or mableliene) and can be found in any drugstore in the cosmetics isle, yeah you might wonder why I know this BUT thats not important anyways, simply get a piece of velcro(male hooklet) and stick it on the end. See attached. These little hooklets make a fantastic dubbing tool that won't break your finer materials when you pull out the legs or throats of your flies. The other end is great for combing out underfur or brushing out collars, give it try, It will be one of the least expensive but most popular tools in your box Bruce

OH yeah, its also articulated

OK, I know its alittle over the edge, but I think it has potential for something!

I agree with fishyman , if the base is heavy enough you should be able to tie just fine(except with spinning or stacking deer hair). Fishyman mentions the height of the jaws(from the base)and he's right. some vices limit you to such a short distance(from the fly to the table) that if your using a long bobbin you don't have much room, especially when tying dubbing loops. As he mentioned, you may want to purchase longer "shaft"(that goes between you jaws and base) but without knowing the Mfg. I not sure if they offer the extensions

I haven't been on this site very long and spend most of my time on the Salmon and Steelhead forum but I noticed Steel drifter mentioned he had problems working with Deer Hair. All of the responses were correct in that the type of hair and the packing are probably most important. If using hair for a head such as a Muddler,or a Zoo Cougar it doesn't need to be dense, that will only make it tougher to sink . Anyways, heres a frog I tied up simply stacking then packing. Steel Drifter, I noticed you live in Royal Oak MI. I live in Berkley like 1 mile away, so I'de be glad to show you some techniques if you like. Let me know, Iv'e got more bass bug stuff than you could imagine