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  1. Stippled Popper says: Wow! $1.00 for a popper body? Cabela's current online catalog lists them for $.43 per and J Stockard is about $.365 per. $1.00 would be a lot even with the hook included in the package But if you want #6 hard foam bodies you would probably have to get your retailer to place a custom order with someone like Wapsi. At least I've never found a shop, local or online that carried #6 hard foam bodies. I've had no problem getting a custom order completed, though I've had to wait for the shop to make a regular order. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The $1 guess may be a bit on high side - BUT - your suggestion of going to my local retailer does not work, as I have NO local retailer. The closest shop that carries any fly tying material is 2 hours away in Nashville and that is the BPS. There is one small independent fly fishing shop in Nashville also. So I am stuck with the internet. And finding bodies that fit the #6 hooks is difficult at best. MudHole has a small cupped shaped popper body that works out to about 75¢ a piece after shipping if I buy in quantity (100) - BUT - they are out of all colors. I was hoping to get more ideas such as the flip-flop which I have done and is very messy in the sanding of the pieces to get a smooth surface with which to glue. I was hoping to get more information on different materials that I might try such as the Backer Rod (which I will look at today).
  2. Poppers and sliders were my first idea. Then I started looking at what they charge for the preformed hard foam heads, which has been my norm and I decided not. With the price at about $1.00 a piece and shipping as the closest shop that has any fly tying material is two hours away in Nashville (BPS) that is too pricey for me. With the rate at which I feed squirrels with my flys I have to consider costs. I have been going through my old copies of Fly Tyer Magazine and have come up with some other ideas for the heads. I am going to look at Backer Rod which is used to fill joints before sealing to see if it can be used. I appreciate the input.
  3. Through some swaps with my nephew I ended up with a lot of Mustad 33903 Kink Shank Hooks in #6. While I use a lot of #8s, #10s and even an occasional #12 I really don't have a favorite pattern for the #6s. I use the smaller ones for foam spiders (mostly) and foam poppers and gurglers. Does anyone have any suggestions for using these hooks?
  4. 1) I don't practice law. I am a retired US Army SFC who knows how to read. 2) I was accurate as far as to what the US law states. I will now exit this conversation and this forum, as I see that the major hobby pursued here is sniping not fly tying. Good day gentlemen
  5. Every so often I read a thread where someone shows a new way to tie a fly or how to handle a material and I have tried to click the "Like this" button but always get a message telling me I have reached my limit for the day - even when I have not "Liked" a post prior. It is something I am doing or something else?
  6. I found a UV glue at Micheal's Craft Store - brand = Lisa Pavelka Magic Glos - found in the jewelery making isle. $12 but Michael's almost always has either a 40 or 50% off coupon on their website, making it $6.00 for 1 Oz. - compare that to the Fly Shop prices. It sets fast and semi-shiny.
  7. Mike - I do not understand your comment. Firstly I don't see a diatribe, which is described as "a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something.". I see some comments being exchanged, some with differing opinions. That hardly qualifies as a diatribe. I did not nor do I think the feathers you got were/are illegal. One of the exemptions to the US Code is for schools and research.
  8. Mike - I will peruse the posts, but I stand by my statement. Here is the link to the law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/16/703 The paragraph below is an interpretation of that law by Northern Prairie Wildlife Research Center. The highlighting is mine to show where I get my idea that possessing feathers of protected species is against the US Code. Anyone desiring to possess migratory birds or their parts or products should be aware that all of these are covered under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act (16U.S.C. 703-712), which implements a series of international treaties designed to protect migratory birds. Some key provisions of the Act are worth keeping in mind: Wording of the Act makes it very clear that most actions that result in "taking" or possession of a protected species or its parts or products is a violation of the Act. Specifically, the Act states: "Unless and except as permitted by regulations, …it shall be unlawful at any time, by any means, or in any manner…to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, …possess, offer for sale, sell, …purchase, import…any migratory bird, any part, nest, or eggs of any such bird…" It is a "strict-liability" law, meaning that there is no requirement for law enforcement agencies to prove "intent" to violate the law. That is, if you are found in possession of a protected species or its parts or products, you are automatically in violation of the law. The provisions of the Act are nearly absolute; "...except as permitted by regulations ..." is the only exception. Some examples of permitted activities that do not violate the law are legal hunting of specific game birds, legitimate research activities, display in licensed zoological gardens, and bird banding under an appropriate permit. The Act covers the great majority (83%) of all native birds found in the U.S. Many of the species not covered by the Act are covered by the Endangered Species Act , other Federal laws, or state laws, many of which are as stringent as the Migratory Bird Treaty Act . In the lower 48 states, all species except the house sparrow, feral pigeon, common starling, and non-migratory game birds like pheasants, gray partridge, and sage grouse, are protected. Penalties upon conviction can be severe. Even if a sympathetic jury finds that you meant no harm in trying to rear an abandoned nestling or in picking a hawk feather, legal defense costs are clearly not worth the risk.
  9. One important point to remember - there are birds from which we can not even possess feathers. Any protected species have this restriction. How you acquired the feathers is of no consequence, you may not have them in your possession. I have a Heron Rookery on my property and there are always feathers under the nests. But I may not pick one up according to the law. Eagle feathers are the same way. There are numerous Eagles that nest in the LBL, a Federal Recreation Area not far from me and eagle feathers can be found on the ground. But you can not pick them up. There is some sort of allowance for Native Americans that allows them to keep them for tribal purposes.
  10. Mike - you are correct - the far west end of the commonwealth. Also correct on the abundance of taxidermists around here. You are partially correct in that I know a few who have mounted pets, more specifically hunting dogs. But you will be surprised how many taxidermists there are, even in city environments. Check the phone book or local services lists. Many are operated out of homes or workshops in a residential neighborhoods. As far as hunters, they can be a source but you are left to tan or preserve the hides on you own. Larger scale taxidermists tan in a vessels under pressure and do the whole hide at once. That leaves the scraps and extras tanned and ready to store. My friend is a very well respected artist and has customers bring or have sent, exotic animals like the wildebeest and pronghorn antelope from which I got scraps. Deer hair is always useful especially if you tie the bigger bass bugs.
  11. Make friends with a taxidermist. One of my crappie-fishing friends is a taxidermist who has a shop in town where I stop from time to time to talk fishing. I told him I was looking for different types of materials with which I could tie flies; he has put aside scraps and parts for me to pick through when I stop in to visit. He gave some wildebeest hide with long black hair that is fairly stiff but still supple enough to use on streamers. And some antelope hide with some very soft tan hair that is hollow at the thicker base but solid at the ends that works well as collars on the micro-jigs I tie for Shell Crackers (Red Ears). He has offered, and I have taken a host of other furs, hairs and a few feathers that are not on your standard list of fly-tying materials. I substitute these for materials I do not have and use them to tie jigs of my own creation for the bluegills, crappie and occasional bass.
  12. I am almost positive that these are Hen as I remember not buying the Rooster necks because of the price and the fact that I had just started tying. That being said I understand that these are not dry fly quality, but the trout to which I will be offering these flies are all hatchery born and placed fish. Those who survive the few fishermen in the creek will end up downstream in the Little River which flows into Lake Barkley where they will become fodder for the bass. The point I am trying to make is that they are not very selective. I am tempted to tie a Pellet Fly but will use some conventional patterns first. While I am tying these to catch the trout, they will inevitably end up in front of a blue gill. And thank you to all who offered input on the material. I have many pattern books that call for certain feathers and while I generally use whatever I think will approximate what the writer calls for, I wanted to and am now able to get a bit closer with the confirmation of what I have.
  13. A little background so you will understand why am asking for help. While I am not new to fly tying I am new to tying with anything but foam and balsa. I learned to fly fish and tie while living in New England. Shortly after that, I moved to Texas and then home to Kentucky. While in Texas and here in Kentucky, I have tied for Bluegill and Bass so I did not pay a lot of attention to materials other than those listed above. Now I am trying to tie some flies to fish the ONE stocked trout stream in West Kentucky. While in NE I purchased more material than I used while there, never marked it and now I am at a loss as to what some of it is. I am fairly sure that the first three are Hen Necks in brown, grizzly and dun. Please feel free to correct me or add any information about what I have. The next two I have no idea what they are or what the proper term for the color is. Any and all help is appreciated.
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