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@SandanI have not heard anyone talk about cleaning it other than skinning out the bone and trimming all the fat away.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I am not much of a cheap skate..maybe on some things, but to each his own I guess. With all of that said, these boxes are really expensive. I am gonna take a look at them tomorrow in person and make a decision, my shop carries them. I have every kind of box you could think of laying around here and could make one of them work if I wanted to, so i may go that route.
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Hello all, I am still new to the fly fishing world and a friend of mine is breaking into the saltwater fly fishing scene and taking me with him, well I really want to go. I tried my luck at tying Lefty's Deceiver the other night and it turned out ok, I'll improve as I do more of them. I started thinking about how to store these salt water flies and what to do with them once I had them tied, they are a bit bigger than the trout stuff, a lot bigger. I did some research and I kept coming back to the Plan D boxes, anyone use them? I do not have any articulated fly's right now, however that may change, but I see no reason why the Pocket Max Articulated Plus can't be a great option for the Deceivers, Surf Candy, etc. The only negative I see now is the cost, but what doesn't cost, and you pay fro what you get. I also wonder why the same box wouldn't work well for Bass and Muskee, those flies are bigger as well. Anyway, thanks in advance.
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Looks good! I need to figure out how to create a permanent space. Small house and we are at capacity but I do have an idea on something. If it comes to life I will post.
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Thanks a bunch everyone for the replies.
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7 hours ago, WWKimba said:Fly tyers use ANY AND ALL feathers and fur! I recently sent away to an Australian fly shop for some kangaroo and wallaby fur. If you can get some for free - TAKE IT! (with a nice THANK YOU - of course!) Think about trading flies, fish fillets, whatever to stay on your sources good side! (If you don't believe me about tyers using ALL items read the story behind the book "The Feather Thief"!
Kim
Thanks. I have seen that book elsewhere, looks like I need to pick it up now and add to my collection.
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1 minute ago, cphubert said:If they are discarding the skins trim away the white belly skin, clean and cut into strips for dying. you can find a lot of nice hair on a skin for tying. You will need to clean & preserve prior to learning to dye hair. if you have the time, you can go deeper into the rabbit hole.....
Good to know, I may look into doing that as well. Thanks.
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I prepped the first Buck Tail today, it only took about 10 minutes and it's crazy easy. I hunt and I am surrounded by Hunters so I can get as many as I want. I am happy how this one turned out for now, in a few weeks we will see if it all worked out right. My buddies dad raises Pheasants and Quail so a supply of Pheasant Tail Feathers is going to be helpful too. Is there any prep we do to those or are they good just as they are? Also, do we use duck feathers?
Here is a picture of the Buck Tail drying.
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18 hours ago, WWKimba said:You"ll find MANY famous tiers flies up for sale and normally found in frames. E-Bay, ESTY and other sites offer them on a fairly regular basis.
Kim
Thanks!
17 hours ago, niveker said:Of topic, a bit, but ...
Last night in my insomnolent wanderings, I was reading this from another site on the difficulties of authenticating famous tiers and their flies:
Buying unauthenticated flies- reproduction cottage industry?
Very interesting and I think right on topic. Thanks!
15 hours ago, Poopdeck said:Lefty's entire fly fishing/tying collection was sold during an estate auction after his death. Things were sold by the lots and were sold dirt cheap. To much stuff not enough people who collect that kind of stuff. Flying fishing is a niche market, fly tying a subniche and collecting flies is a further offshoot niche. Interesting question though and I'm curious how many fly tiers are also fly collectors
I do enjoy looking at the flies of others, learning from them and at times mimicking their flies and techniques but I have no desire to own or collect flies tied by anybody. in fact I am a collector of nothing, I just don't have that gene I guess.
Yes they were, I wish I had of been around for that estate auction, although I am sure there are a fly or a tool here and there with his family. Years ago when I tried to pick up fly fishing I always enjoyed reading his books. Anyway, fast forward to today his daughter and granddaughter have personal items they are parting with, not many things, but a few of his things here and there. What research I can do I did (which isn't a ton) and I felt secure in my purchase. The story checked out and I am ok with it. With all of that said, for a long time I made my living arresting people that loved to lie to me about everything. They would stare you right in the face and tell you a bold face lie about everything from larceny to murder, many times they began to believe their own lie.
I do encourage you to check out the FB pages though, some of the pictures that his daughter/granddaughter have posted are pretty cool.
14 hours ago, cphubert said:I have flies tied or gifted by friends some of them notable tiers, I also have materials also gifted to me from friends, silly as it sounds, like a small bag of off pink beaver dubbing dyed by a old friend, I tie and fish one Hendrickson a year for him. Never bought flies to collect, not yet anyway. Hell I don't know who going to get all this stuff after I'm gone.
Good stuff my friend!
13 hours ago, mikechell said:That's me. I'm not a "fan" of anything, or any sport. I like to fly fish. I tie flies for my fly fishing. I like to bass fish and I have a tackle box with the lures I use. Other than that, I don't have collections of anything. I'm not a collector. I'm not nostalgic for times past. I'm not important enough to worry about the old adage, ""Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It." If I repeat my own history ... well, I hope it's as fun the second time around.
To the original post, I've had a couple of buck tails sitting around for years. I've yet to use any of the hair off them. I don't tie many different patterns, and none of the productive flies I tie require it. At some point, here in the near future, I'm likely to offer them, and a few other materials ... since I haven't used any of it.
13 hours ago, mikechell said:That's me. I'm not a "fan" of anything, or any sport. I like to fly fish. I tie flies for my fly fishing. I like to bass fish and I have a tackle box with the lures I use. Other than that, I don't have collections of anything. I'm not a collector. I'm not nostalgic for times past. I'm not important enough to worry about the old adage, ""Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It." If I repeat my own history ... well, I hope it's as fun the second time around.
To the original post, I've had a couple of buck tails sitting around for years. I've yet to use any of the hair off them. I don't tie many different patterns, and none of the productive flies I tie require it. At some point, here in the near future, I'm likely to offer them, and a few other materials ... since I haven't used any of it.
I am on the other end of things I guess. I like history and enjoy collecting things from the past. Not everything, but a few things I have grown to like in my 50 years.
Looks like the buck tails are used in some small mouth flies I want to tie and definitely for the salt, glad I have an endless supply of them. I did my first one today, extremely easy and should be good to go in a few weeks.
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@WWKimbayou are a continued source of information for me and I appreciate it. So many things to look at and to tie but I don’t feel overwhelmed, i’ll just pick one and go at it.
On another topic while we are talking about Lefty, I am enjoying reading some of his books. I picked up the 25 book little library and can’t get enough of it. I did something last night that really made no sense, but I did it anyway. I am sure most of you know that Lefty’s granddaughter is selling some of his fly’s, tool’s, etc. through Facebook and Etsy. I bought a deceivers last night that Lefty tied. Of course I have no way of actually 100% confirming this, but some of the people who have made purchases from her I truly trust and feel like it is legit. I am excited about having a piece of history in my little tying area, even if it is just a fly. It made me think, does anyone collect flies that the well known people in the industry have tied? Seems like a fun cool way to pay tribute to the men and woman that have paved the way.
Anyway, thank again for the help, I really appreciate it.
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Welcome back. I am new so our paths probably haven’t crossed, happy that they are now. Glad you kicked the C’s backside!
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Welcome to the site, I think you will like it here.
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@Ephemerella, @WWKimba, Thanks for the responses. I went and looked at some flies on YouTube, especially Lefty’s Deceiver and that one absolutely uses deer hair. I have learned about dying the hair as well, this guy can get me a bunch of it if I am interested. If I get off of work tomorrow, may be told I’m staying for another 24 hours, I am going to trim the tail out, pin it to a board, and then Borax it for a couple weeks. This will be my first one but doesn’t seem to look to hard. Kind of cool to use the deer tail too and it not going to waste. Thanks again for the help.
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A buddy of mine brought me a deer tail for tying. Do we use this? If so how should I prepare it to keep or do I do anything to it at all?
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14 hours ago, WWKimba said:Sounds like you are losing all your excuses!
Kim
Yep!
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Thanks so much everyone for all of the help. I found a pretty good light and it is working well for me. My readers are on the way and my tying station base is white. Every thing is coming together.
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Awesome! Imagine how good he will be in 20 yeas! Great post.
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Pretty cool man! Please keep us updated on the progress.
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@nivekerthanks again! Everywhere I looked for this book it was so expensive. Also I had never heard of Abe Books, what a cool site. I'll be sure to check there whenever I am looking for a hard to find book. There is one more that I would love to have, although it is not a book, it appears that it was released in the beginning with Lefty's Little Library. I have only saw it mentioned in one place and I am hoping maybe someone here actually remembers it or has more info on it. Anyway, it is:
Lefty Kreh's Modern Fly Casting Method: The Five Rules, a 45 minute audio cassette with illustrated bookletI wonder if this was actually a part of the Little Library, up to this point I thought it was. I don't expect to find this but it would be really cool if I did. Anymore info would be great too. Thanks again, my copy of Lefty's Little Library is complete!
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Thanks everyone for the great info in this post. I’m sorry i had missed this one the last few weeks, not sure how that happened.
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14 hours ago, niveker said:Thank You! I just completed my collection for $20.60! Thank you!
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Thanks @gillage. I wish it was. For all I know it may be the same text but I need it to match the set I have. Here is one on eBay:
eBay item number:324251534334Sorry you will have to copy and paste the auction number. -
Deer Tail
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I gotcha, thanks @Sandan.