Hand Twisted Furled Leaders, no board. in Fly Fishing Posted Thursday at 04:49 PM · Report reply On 7/18/2021 at 9:27 PM, danthebugman said: I've been playing around with different leader setups lately and have given some thought to trying out furled leaders. This post just happened to catch me at the right time! Couple of questions: 1) Most of you seem to indicate that you are using relatively thick mono to start with (20-30 lbs) and it seems to be that this would result in a very thick butt section. What weight setup are you casting these with? I was thinking of making one for my 4 wt since that's the rod I use the most, but I was thinking of starting with something like 4 or 6 lbs mono. 2) I wanted to put a tippet ring in mine like the first video shows, but on the finished leader his tippet ring looked loose in the loop that was left after twisting. I have seen other furled leaders where the tippet ring looked like it was held tighter. I imagine having the tippet ring loose like that would cause some problems with casting, but maybe it doesn't. Hi Dan - Question #1 4# and 6# will work with light/small flies but not well with any real weight on your leader (weighted/larger flies, split shot or indicators) I use 8# or 10# mono when I make mine which results in a butt section of 32lbs or 40lbs (4 strands). The other half is 2 strands and will be 16Lbs or 20lb depending on what size you use. I tie mine to a 5' total length with another 4' or more of tippet. So 9' or more total leader. Either of these sizes turn over beautifully on my 3 wt or my 5 wt. The leader made from 10lb mono works better at turning over heavy flies and the 8lb mono is better for the lighter flies like dries or soft hackles. As for question 2 I'm sorry I can't offer any advise because I tie my tippet to the end loop directly with a clinch knot. Their are many opinions about furled leaders vs a tapered leader. Some of us love them and others not so much. I think it really depends on what type of fly fishing and techniques you favor as to which category you'll land in. My purpose with this topic was simply to let others know that you can make your own furled leaders without needing to set up a large cumbersome board. These are simple, fast, inexpensive and anyone can make them. They do have some shortcomings but offer the advantage of having no memory and a really long lifespan. Make one with 8# or 10# mono and try it on your 4wt. You don't need to add a tippet ring yet just tie the tippet to the end loop and have at it.