I'm sure some of you guys and bought Whiting High and Dry necks, I was looking for some info in them but the only thing I was listed was that they will tie from size 8 down to a size 18, I tie way to many fly's smaller than size 18 to put down $50.00 for that kind of neck. I did look into Saddles but I'm guessing the supply has not caught up from the hair craze from a few years ago.