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1 hour ago, skeet3t said:

 

Did a bit of research a few minutes ago. LeFrak City is an  series of apartment complexes in Queens, NY. One has 4,605 apartments. If half of the residents buy an EV, where will they put the charging stations and where will the electricity come from?

The power company for NYC is Con Edison (Consolidated Edison). Con Ed is one of the largest power companies in the USA and as a result, they are well equipped to deal with increasing demand. They serve 3.4 million customers.

Of all the power companies in the USA, you chose one that is able to meet demand. They even have the ability to import electric power from Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Edison

This is their source of their electric power:

https://www.coned.com/en/our-energy-future/how-we-source-our-energy/electricity

Not all the residents will buy EVs at once. In fact, EV production cannot keep up with demand because of limitations in EV batteries. So even if demand for EVs increases, production could not.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2020/03/25/manufacturers-are-struggling-to-supply-electric-vehicles-with-batteries/?sh=41565dcb1ff3

"Back in February Audi temporarily halted the production of its electric SUV the e-tron, citing ‘battery supply bottlenecks’. It reduced its production to 4,100 EV, some 1,600 short of its 2020 target. This is not an isolated case."

So as production increases, charging stations will be built. Some former "gas stations" will likely be converted to charging stations.

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1 hour ago, DFoster said:

as write this I have head phones on at work and I'm listening to a "tinnitus therapy" 5 hour loop of high pitched tones and white noise that supposedly can help with the permanent ringing in my ears.  It's almost as annoying as the tinnitus

Uhg I feel your pain on that one. I remember back 14 months ago when I got my tinnitus from the microsuction ear cleaning, I tried just about everything to help my tinnitus including the therapy sounds you are doing. The one I used was a combination of crickets chirping and a low siren and sound with rain in the background. It helpeds while I had it on, but only because it was so annoying I couldn't pick out the annoying tinnitus over the annoying covering sounds lol.

I'm gonna have to go back to the ENT myself probably this week. While I have got somewhat habituated to the tinnitus now a days, I ended up getting what I think is fluid in the inner ear from when I had covid back in December, which now made my ear muffled, which made my tinnitus worse again.  Can't win for losing with the ear issues these days it seems.

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I recall that there were four generators to produce power.They could get by with with three. Guess what? Two went down and created a brownout. Lived in Queens, NY for three years so familiar with Con-Ed.

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8 hours ago, SilverCreek said:

The power company for NYC is Con Edison (Consolidated Edison). Con Ed is one of the largest power companies in the USA and as a result, they are well equipped to deal with increasing demand. They serve 3.4 million customers.

Of all the power companies in the USA, you chose one that is able to meet demand. They even have the ability to import electric power from Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Edison

This is their source of their electric power:

https://www.coned.com/en/our-energy-future/how-we-source-our-energy/electricity

Not all the residents will buy EVs at once. In fact, EV production cannot keep up with demand because of limitations in EV batteries. So even if demand for EVs increases, production could not.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2020/03/25/manufacturers-are-struggling-to-supply-electric-vehicles-with-batteries/?sh=41565dcb1ff3

"Back in February Audi temporarily halted the production of its electric SUV the e-tron, citing ‘battery supply bottlenecks’. It reduced its production to 4,100 EV, some 1,600 short of its 2020 target. This is not an isolated case."

So as production increases, charging stations will be built. Some former "gas stations" will likely be converted to charging stations.

How long does it take to charge? I went to Little rock, AR to see my grandson play baseball. About 600 miles. With an EV, I could only go part way and then have to wait for a recharge.

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Did you have to stop for gas?

Time to charge depends on the charger and the EV. With Tesla:

"15 minutes

On the Road. When you're traveling in your Tesla or away from where you normally park, there are three main charging options to keep your vehicle charged on the go. The Tesla Supercharger is the fastest charging option when you're away from home, allowing you to charge your car up to 200 miles in 15 minutes."

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

Lucid Air has a Range of about 500 miles.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/09/2022-lucid-air-driven-520-mile-range-tested-by-motor-trend/

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I think it depends on the batteries as well as the charger. What I understand is it could take up to an hour with a super duper charger and big batteries  or it could take 20 minutes with the super duper charger and a small battery. 

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42 minutes ago, Poopdeck said:

I think it depends on the batteries as well as the charger. What I understand is it could take up to an hour with a super duper charger and big batteries  or it could take 20 minutes with the super duper charger and a small battery. 

That is for a full charge. But that is not what EV travellers do.

My youngest son and his wife have 2 Teslas. If they cannot get all the way to their destination or home, they do a partial fast charge enough to get to the destination and then when they arrive, the do a full charge.

At home they do a full charge during the night when electric rates are low.

My other son also has and EV. He always charges at home because the round trip to his  job is well within range. He also has a Toyota Prius that his family uses for trips.

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Of course there is a charge and it varies as to whether

1. You paid an annual fee to be able to charge at a lower rate 

2. The amount of current (amp-hrs) you transfer.

3. Local factors like competition.

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9 hours ago, dogfacedoc said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-congo-mining-rights-idUSKCN1N71SQ 

Do they charge faster if kids do the mining?

Awful story Dogface- The environment that the very people pushing EV's say they care so much about is also taking a beating.  The reality is that the metals required for the batteries is largely located in poor third world countries.  Environmental protection,  unsafe and cruel treatment of workers and forced child labor are of no concern to those in control of these places.   From my perspective driving an EV is more about making their owners "feel" like they are saving the environment then it is about any meaningful change to human environmental impact.  

https://dailycaller.com/2021/12/08/electric-vehicle-deforestation-global-climate-pledges/

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hI recall that there were four generators to produce power.They could get by with with three. Guess what? Two went down and created a brownout. Lived in Queens, NY for three years so familiar with Con-Ed.

Tesla???? My truck has been paid for for years and my Ford Ecosport is half paid for. So I'm supposed to go in debt to buy an EV which is much more expensive? How much petroleum is used by Uncle Joe? Is his armored limo an EV?

As for an EV, I recall my father's saying, "I wouldn't have one shoved up my rear end if I had room for a box car." EV is another way of the government dictating to the American people.

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4.34 yesterday in Connecticut

1.99 for propane. same as the last 4 deliveries

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Yeah, I think propane has been 2 dollars for years. I have to remember to look at the gas prices next time I go out. I have no idea what they are in Pa.  I know i paid $4.49 in Maryland on Sunday. 

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