esox22 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 I have fished northerns on conventional tackle for years being from Wisconsin. However, I am new to fly fishing for them. I am well aware of how fast they can cut line, even super lines. I make my own wire leaders for conventional fishing, but I am wondering what you guys use while fly fishing them. Is there a good tieable wire out there? I've heard tyger is tieable. Just wondering what everyone else uses and has had success with. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 I've done quite well with just 20 lbs flourocarbon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphix 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 There are wire bite guards and wire leaders. What comes to mind immediately is the Orvis bite guards, but they're expensive. http://www.saltwateredge.com/LE11.html My friends that fish for moderate sized pike (10-15lbs) typically use the butt section of old tapered leaders or a short length of 30-50lb mono as a bite guard. They pre-tie it to the fly and use micro swivels to attach it to the rest of their leaders, whatever size that might be. The pike fishing I've done was using 17lb mono and it held up to four pike... two landed and two threw the hook... without so much as a nick. The two landed were small, no bigger than 5lbs. Others will probably disagree, but that is what works here in Northern NY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esox22 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 Thanks for the input. I am not afraid to try mono I guess , and I know that most of the time they won't cut it unless it hits the razor edges of their teeth. I would have to believe it'd be more supple than any wire out there. I thought about just using power pro or fireline as well. Maybe I'll just experiement to see what works best. Most of our pike fishing consists of fish the size of hammer handles up to 10-12 lbs. However, I do have the Mississippi backwaters basically in my backyard as well as a few bigger lakes to the north where a shot at 20+ lbers. is not out of the question. Of course we have lots of big muskies around here too. Just waiting for the 36 inches of ice to melt then I can try it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 toothy critter tie-able stainless. Also get your hands on waterwolf By Barry Renolds http://www.barryreynoldsflyfishing.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggybob 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2009 American Fishing Wire, multi strand plastic coated. If you want you can even tie a three turn clinch knot, but a uni knot or Homer Rhodes knot is better and easier. I've landed a 54 incher on the 18 pound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kodiaksalmon 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2009 I use 80# flourocarbon. Used to use Toothy Critter, but use fc exclusively now for muskies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 No pike here but chain pickerel. also thinking about giving this a try for striped bass bottom rigs I want to sell http://www.mustad.no/catalog/product.php?id=395 http://www.mustad.no/catalog/product.php?id=396 Check out this step by step on how easy it is to make a leader with this stuff http://www.mustad.no/flash/steelforteeth_77374.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeky 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 Very interesting, Joe. I would be curious to know the strength of the bond since it sounds like you are just melting the plastic coating together. Does that negate the strength of the steel core? If it holds, I like it. Deeky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibian 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 Most pike around me are only 3-8lbs and I have been using 15 lb flourocarbon for the last 2 years and have never lost one yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites