Piker20 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 One and a half hours a fly for an intruder? WOH! No offense but what you been smokin Willis? I guess if you really were painstaking about how you placed your materials on the shank it might take you tha amount of time. But they really aren't that complicated. I agree, I thought I was missing some steps or something major but I think some of the atricles were including time for heating, straightening the hook, snipping and filing the cut end smooth. This is the first time I have looked at this sort of style so didn't want to be missing some crucial step. @Jam, good links to some flies there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooked01 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 count me in on this one Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastern fly 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 count me in on this one Scott Hooked01 glad to have you. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 if your using the mustad 3191 you don't need to heat them and straighten them they are long enough right at the bend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chefben4 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 Senyo's craft fur 'truder really does show how simple and quick they can be tied. As for those BC 'truders? Just amazing! nice find! There are heaps of variations and interesting adaptations of the 'intruder style'...One of my favourite video's appeared right here at Hatches Magazine. Was 'Tie an Intruder in under 2 minutes'. They removed the video tho, damnnnnn! http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2010/11/24/want-to-tie-an-intruder-in-under-2-minutes/?utm_source=FTFGuest&utm_medium=web&utm_content=post Hate that when you bookmark a video or link and it disappears. Jam' thats a Scott Howell video. Every website I found linking to one has a broken link. I think when he started releasing DVD's he took down all his videos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytyinfreak 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 One and a half hours a fly for an intruder? WOH! No offense but what you been smokin Willis? I guess if you really were painstaking about how you placed your materials on the shank it might take you tha amount of time. But they really aren't that complicated. I agree, I thought I was missing some steps or something major but I think some of the atricles were including time for heating, straightening the hook, snipping and filing the cut end smooth. This is the first time I have looked at this sort of style so didn't want to be missing some crucial step. @Jam, good links to some flies there. I prefer wadington shanks or Senyo's articulated shanks through Flymen fishing company for my intruders, the wadington shanks are heavier than a nipped hook so i don't HAVE to use chain eyes. I usually just soak the fly to load the fur/wool and start swingin. You know I think I might try an articulated intruder! Yah, that dog'll hunt fer sure. and I'm thinkin probably blue and black with a touch of purple, hmmmm, I guess ya'll will see 'em when you see 'em Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 a little light reading about intruders Options and Tying Hints A. Ostrich herl can be replaced with similar materials such as Rhea herl and Peacock herl. B. Feelers and wings may also have a few strands of flash material such as Krystal Flash or Flashabou. C. The working thread and finishing thread may be the same as is appropriate for the materials used. D. The chenille is preferably synthetic without a cotton core so as to limit water absorption and the consequent increased weight during the cast. E. Generally those Intruders tied without weighted eyes swim in a more horizontal plane and exhibit more movement of the fly. If eyes are desired the use of plastic eyes especially Dolls eyes (if you can get over the Black Bass Lure connotation are a great choice). F. The wings can effectively comprise long thin saddle hackle feathers in place of, or in addition to, the Ostrich herl. G. The rooster saddle hackle of the front hackle may be substituted for with hen cape or saddle hackle, duck or goose body feathers and the like. H. The throat hackle may also comprise dyed guinea body feathers , water fowl body feathers such as Merganser and Teal for example, Schlappen, hen tail, and the like. Its function is to provide a bit of color, and movement through the broken color pattern. I. The front butt may also be comprised of Elk hair, synthetic chenille, or synthetic yarn and the like as long as it creates a ball to help hold the wings away from the body during fishing. J. Some like to make the body out of chenille, synthetic yarn, or dubbing (with or without a palmered hackle) in place of the flat woven braid. However, one of the design features and most effective functions of the Intruder is that is sinks quickly and deeply. Adding bulk and surface area only retards these desired functions. Where you want to fish this style of fly in shallow and/or slow water these additions may be a benefit. K. Where a chenille, yarn or dubbed body is used the front butt may not be necessary depending on the diameter of the body. L. Finally, anyone that thinks an Intruder is a good looking fly has no business in the fashion industry ;^) © 2010 Bruce E. Harang Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 Very good info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 I been kicking around the question of eyes do you guys want them with or without? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytyinfreak 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 I been kicking around the question of eyes do you guys want them with or without? as per the list posted earlier: E. Generally those Intruders tied without weighted eyes swim in a more horizontal plane and exhibit more movement of the fly. If eyes are desired the use of plastic eyes especially Dolls eyes I'm going to use FTD's fisch eyes or maybe mini doll eyes or maybe jungle cock, or perhaps nothin, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyFishin'Jam 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 I been kicking around the question of eyes do you guys want them with or without? Just my pref is if no eyes, a strip or two of leadfree wire on underside of shank or big wing to make sure she swings pretty. I guess if you tie in the round it doesn't matter. Dunno if i am doing JC and leadwire or Small Tungsten dumbells yet. Will use some of those fancy colour octopus hooks i see around at the moment, crazy sharp things. Will be a design that has been successful on the Campbell River B.C for Steelhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2012 ok guys what do you think of this one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 Looks good Paul. I am tying on SS tube so should have enough weight to swim on a sinktip line with #7 rods. But I received some fluro lime tungsten eyes that might go on? Kevin, are you still looking at March 2nd for receiving these? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 Thanks Colin I think I will tie something like that maybe different colors though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boron11mx 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 I'm in if you have spots still available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites