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Yeah, see that's a different situation then an 8x that's thinner then hair and trying to put it in a hole that is non-existant. Also, at this size the length does matter so I would think tie it long and cut to size after untangling, starightening and then you can try to tie it on to the leader. lol

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When you wrap the line around the winder don't pull it too tight and it helps avoid the creases. Also the pole wonders have rounded edges and don't seem to put the acute kink in that a card would.

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