Moshup 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Was just wondering. Everyone seems to be pretty accommodating Here and I just don’t recall any ladies on the page. The ones I know locally are very good tiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breambuster 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Used to be some very good lady tyers here. One, from Canada, I nicknamed “Helen Shaw.” If the name escapes you, look it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moshup 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 I know who Helen Shaw is . Her book helped me to learn to tie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Opinion only ... most women tiers don't have the spare time to sit around and participate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breambuster 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Mogup said: I know who Helen Shaw is . Her book helped me to learn to tie. My first fly tying book. Next was Art Flick’s Streamside Guide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moshup 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) * Edited September 4, 2020 by Mogup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moshup 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, breambuster said: My first fly tying book. Next was Art Flick’s Streamside Guide 👍 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 I'm guessing far fewer women tie than men, most outdoors sports especially fishing and hunting are mostly done by men, and even the women that do it are rarely as involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_729 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, vicente said: I'm guessing far fewer women tie than men, most outdoors sports especially fishing and hunting are mostly done by men, and even the women that do it are rarely as involved. And I feel fortunate for that---otherwise I might not eat! : ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redietz 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 10 hours ago, breambuster said: My first fly tying book. Next was Art Flick’s Streamside Guide Mine too. (Flicks was probably #3 or 4.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redietz 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill_729 said: And I feel fortunate for that---otherwise I might not eat! : ) And comments like that are the reason you don't see more women tiers on this forum. I know a number of avid women anglers and fly tiers. They post to local TU list servers, to some fly fishing Facebook pages. They don't, OTOH, post to places where they don't feel welcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_729 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, redietz said: And comments like that are the reason you don't see more women tiers on this forum. You perhaps misunderstand me. I welcome them. While you're at it, I wonder how well the various races are represented here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redietz 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bill_729 said: You perhaps misunderstand me. I welcome them. While you're at it, I wonder how well the various races are represented here. I think we're a little bit more diverse wrt race. And I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing that this site isn't very women friendly (others are far worse); it's just the way it is. I regularly hear comments similar to those in this little article from woman angler/tiers:: What Women Really Want especially the line "Unfortunately, many of our fellow anglers still view fly fishing as a “man’s sport,” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_729 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, redietz said: And I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing that this site isn't very women friendly (others are far worse); it's just the way it is. I regularly hear comments similar to those in this little article from woman angler/tiers:: What Women Really Want especially the line "Unfortunately, many of our fellow anglers still view fly fishing as a “man’s sport,” Well, if there is interest in pushing for this, someone could create a new section in the Forums, to help make them feel especially welcome! And we could watch and see if they talk about the others of us, and bartering for sticks and such. : ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redietz 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2020 I'm not sure that there is interest in this, and if there is, I doubt creating a ghetto for them would be the way to go. Here's the kind of problem that I see. This was posted recently on a local fly fishing Facebook group. It's not particularly offensive, and the poster wasn't trying to alienate women by posting it. Just a funny way of saying "my spouse is going to kill me for buying a new rod." (As a widower I sometimes wish I still had that problem.) I've heard women make the same complaint. It's that when a woman logs in and sees it; along with half a dozen others in a similar vein, they get the idea that it's a site for men to complain about women, and wonder if they really want to be a part of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites