Rusty Shackleford 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2021 I have tied quite a lot of pheasant tails now and I have had the occasional fiber break while wrapping but today I pulled out a new ginger color feather and I couldn't make it through a #16 pheasant tail to save my life, every fiber kept consistently breaking off, tried the other feather from the package with the same results. Have any of y'all had this problem? if so is there a work around or should I just throw them in the trash? I know some say they soak biots in water before tying them in to make them less brittle, I don't know if that would help with a pheasant feather or not though. I am open to suggestions and curious to hear if anyone else has had this happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2021 Sounds like bleaching the feather to a ginger color made it brittle. I don't know of a way to correct that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niveker 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, SilverCreek said: Sounds like bleaching the feather to a ginger color made it brittle. That was my first thought also. I have heard other tyers say soaking feathers in a water/glycerin solution will soften the stems. I have never done it, though, and do not know the procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moshup 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2021 Ditto on the bleach damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Shackleford 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, SilverCreek said: Sounds like bleaching the feather to a ginger color made it brittle. I don't know of a way to correct that. I figured as much, how unfortunate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Knapp 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 Try soaking first, then send them to me if that don't work. No seriously, I love to fiddle with stuff to see if they can be brought back. If I was successful I'd send them back. Of course, you could just bring them back where you got them and see if you can have them replaced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cphubert 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 try hair conditioner it helps me with brittle stems and quills, worth a try, my wife doesn't know how her conditioner bottle gets empty before the shampoo its obvious to her I don't use it I'm bald 👴 (she gets it at my sisters hair salon) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kerusso 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 I would echo the previous thread .... soak them in water for a couple of minutes then apply some hair conditioner ....... let set for 3-4 minutes then rinse. Worth a try before throwing the feathers away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 i have dyed pheasant tails and have no problems wrapping the the fibers if you want ginger/tan fibers try using the hen feathers or golden pheasant tails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickZieger 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 I would contact who you got them from and see if you can return them. Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Shackleford 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, RickZieger said: I would contact who you got them from and see if you can return them. Rick I did and they have already mailed out replacements, I tried a conditioner soak/wash which did seem to slightly improve things but in the end most of the fibers ended up breaking, I just made it a little farther haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2021 were are you tying in the fibers at? the very tip? tying in the tips are going to break cut off about 1/4 inch from the tip to get into much heavier fiber. tie in the fibers on top of the hook. then make a wrap away from you (or towards you if you prefer that direction) and then twists the fibers and wrap forward this helps with wrapping peacock herls as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Shackleford 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, flytire said: were are you tying in the fibers at? the very tip? tying in the tips are going to break cut off about 1/4 inch from the tip to get into much heavier fiber. tie in the fibers on top of the hook. then make a wrap away from you (or towards you if you prefer that direction) and then twists the fibers and wrap forward this helps with wrapping peacock herls as well I have tried removing most of and all of the tips with no success, I have not tried spinning them though, I always try to keep mine flat when I lay them down. I will try one last time this afternoon using this method and let you know how it goes but I am not hopeful haha. I have never had much issues with peacock breaking on me but I also always snip out the very tip first but stopped twisting them a while ago. I now almost always use one strand and wind it in like any other hackle with the shiny side facing away from the shank and I haven't found them to be any more delicate than those that I used to twist 2-3 together and imo gives a fuller better look and uses less materials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites