Guest Report post Posted November 20, 2003 A new addition to the fly pattern database has been submitted by Jim Hester in MD: Olive Grizzly Bass Seaducer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Desjardins 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Nice tie. Do you find the prongs for weedguards lose many fish? I've been using loops of maxima 20# and find that my hookup percentage goes way down when using them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 20, 2003 John, I'm sure I've lost a few because of the weed guards, but most are smaller fish. I use big flies, and when a good fish grabs the fly they usually hook themselves. Because this type fly is best around debris & structure, a weed guard is a necessity, however I've come to like the 2 prong types much better than the single loop. I push the 2 prong to where they're almost at 90 degrees to the hook shank and bend the ends back. This way the guard pushes the fly away from objects, but when a fish grabs the fly the guards are easily "crushed" down to allow the hook to grab. There is also a space between the hook & the guards so if the fish strikes a little short often times they'll be lip hooked unless they miss the hook completely. I've had much better success with the 2 prong than with the single loop & lose less flies too. I started using the 2 prong type because a lot of the guides I tied for who fished for Redfish, Seatrout & Bonefish all prefered that type, and much of the tidal bass waters I fish are very similar to the waters they fish as far as the grass & such go. The waters I fish have a lot of downed wood, pads & overhanging branches, plus some bridges, piers & rock structures. I prefer not to use a guard and will remove them if I can just fish the edges around structure without snagging, but that's not always the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Desjardins 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2003 Thanks Jim, You've given me something to think about as I tie this winter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 20, 2003 yep, more great wisdom!! Jim, loving the Seaducers....gonna be a busy winter in the studio! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 21, 2003 Jim.. I love that idea of the weed guards... as prongs up front... never seen anything similar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 21, 2003 John, It's not my idea, I learned it from some of the guides I used to tie for, and from something Lefty Kreh wrote about weed guards. I used the single loop guards for a long time on my bass flies, but have switched to this type on just about any type fly that needs a guard. These just seem to work better & still allow me to hook some fish! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
