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Wow Lazarus thread here Ray. Original post in 2006, glad you brought this back from the grave so I can try them out this summer. Haha.

Here is my six barrel repeater. You can crank out caddis and poppers like crazy with this bad boy haha. Each one is around 3/4". While not homemade, it is custom made.

 

 

 

This stacker is awesome! Who made it?

My friend used to own a fly shop, and he had his machinist friend make a bunch of them.

Here is my six barrel repeater. You can crank out caddis and poppers like crazy with this bad boy haha. Each one is around 3/4". While not homemade, it is custom made.

Oddest thing I ever found in a stream was a Denver Post Newpaper Vending Machine. It was at least 2-3 miles from the nearest road....very odd indeed.

I like this one the Mormon Girl http://flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part301.php but what can I use in place of badger guard hairs?

 

Damn, that Mormon Girl does look good but I don't know the equivalent to badger hairs. Although it looks like maybe grizzly hackle fibers might work.

While MOM mentions in her book the use of specific birds and getting them at certain stages in their life for certain color or size feathers, it is also mentioned that most of these flies were created out of what the fly tier had on had. So, in that spirit, I think you could use almost any hair you have on hand to make it. In this case though, I think hackle fibers might work just fine.

 

Kirk

That is exactly what you need to think about. Just about anything can be used to create MOM-esque patterns. What you should do is try and stick to a standardized pattern that way we can give you pointers on the actual tying (that is if your worried about the showy aspect of it). I would say try the claret montreal, if you dont have claret floss and hackle, make it a orange, green, or blue montreal.

Those are the thistle and claret montreal respectively

Bryan,

 

Those flies that he posted are bass flies, they are not salmon flies. They are just classic bass flies instead of classic salmon flies that most people associate with that style.

Well now I am motivated to give them a try for sure. What materials should I gather together to make a decent selection of these when Bass seasons rolls around again?

the list is quite long, your best bet is to find a few patterns that use similar materials, gather those tie them up, and then keep acquiring materials slowly.

How much smaller would you make them for Bass?

They are tied on 1/0 hooks, however you could go down in size if you felt the need. But I believe our modern 1/0 are around the size specified in the literature.

Kirk, MOM stands for Mary Orvis Marbury, she wrote a book called Favorite Flies and their Histories.

 

Didn't realize that. I've got that book and love the old plates. I've been wanting for years to try and duplicate some of those old patterns and use them on Bass and Redfish. I know they would still work.

 

Thanks,

Kirk

Get on making them, there is some learning curve to them but it shouldn't stop you from trying. Most of the materials are not that hard to find. For hooks a Mustad 3366 works as good as any, if you want to get fancy you could always nip the eye, japan the hook, and use silk worm gut for an eye or snell. If you are serious about wanting to recreate the plates PM me and I can help you figure out what you need.

Thanks for the comments guys I appreciate it.

Dafunk, doze are beautiful MOM flies even if I don't know what a MOM fly is.

 

Kirk

Kirk, MOM stands for Mary Orvis Marbury, she wrote a book called Favorite Flies and their Histories.

Hey guys been way to long since I posted anything here. Been way to absorbed with tying classic salmon flies, but these are applicable I believe! Hope you all are well, and I have been checking up here, and I must say there have been some fine flies posted as of late.

Some Classic "MOM" flies that I am sure would bring a lunker to net.

I am actually planning to take a trip out there this winter to see it first hand...super excited

Yup a great pattern for sure! Great for almost any warmwater species, especially carp!

Very cool! I love these old flies. They are horribly gaudy, like the originators thought "I just want to see how much random crap I can strap to a hook". Might have to tie some flies like these for this years fishing!

damn

I found him in July, he was in a odd place too. A large shallow pool, I was actually looking for the large caddis that are in that river.

Just a generic stone nymph, tied on a shorter size 4 streamer.

Yup all photoshop there haha, I will post a pic of the bug I use to imitate him when I get off work tonight.

I dont have little girly hands neither

The hook is superb, love it. The fly is however much more appealing to me. great pattern and I will be using it for "testing" purposes!

that is close enough for me and most trout I am sure. Dont be afraid to use substitutes on flies, everyone does, and trout rarely notice.

I have always had good luck with patterns that have orange in them...like others have said they are not all that picky. If it looks like food they generally take.

Great job Mark, your coming along nicely!

Here is a new one.

Ok I will let you in on my top secret secret carp fly...but dont tell anyone! The secret is the color, I caught a LOT of carp this year on it. I will try and post a pic today.

Hook: 2x long nymph hook (usually I use a 6 or 8)

Tail:Rabbit fur (or marabou)- Purple

Body: Semi Seal- Purple

Legs: Purple metallic flake silicone

Eyes: beadchain preferably brightly colored ones chartreuse or orange

Head: cover the bead chain with some semi seal

Honestly, I really dont think it matters what you use...If it looks like food and you get it to the carp without spooking him, he will try to eat it. I am warning you though carp fishing is additive.

The best way for you to improve your techniques is to constantly monitor what you are doing. Make every thread wrap count, learn how/why materials act the way they do and respond in order. I would recommend watching youtube videos, specifically Davie Mcphail, to help learn techniques. Some of these techniques will not come easily, and only after practice will you see results. Get some good introductory tying books, or even just pattern books, and pick a single pattern and tie it until it looks exactly like the photo. Then slowly (keyword) pick more difficult patterns. Sounds boring....and it is...but it really is the best way to improve.

Also post pics of your flies, so you can get comments, recommendations, and critiques from other tyers

Hey guys, figured I should get a fly in before surgery this Thursday, nothing major just a hernia repair. Its a Glen Grant of sorts, hope ya like. Thanks Austin.